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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/07/ukraine-us-eu-victoria-nuland_n_4743251.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland said 'F**k the EU' in a private telephone call to the US Ambassador to Ukraine. She was referring to the slow progress being made by the European Union over the crisis and wanting to get the UN involved.

There are two ways to interpret this declaration: 1. She's being an arrogant American steamrollering over the deliberately cautious and thoughtful European Union or 2. The EU is shit, everyone knows it's shit and even the Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs doesn't want anything to do with it.

The president of Kazakhstan has apparently suggested changing the country's name

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26082740

What should we suggest to him?

Quote: Nogget @ 8th February 2014, 9:55 AM GMT

The president of Kazakhstan has apparently suggested changing the country's name

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26082740

What should we suggest to him?

Khazi would seem appropriate.

Yes, flush out the old, bring in the new. I think it's sensible even if it takes a while, people will see it as a progressive country now and won't be as scared of it. Afghanistan and Pakistan's nutters have done all the stans a disservice.

Quote: Nogget @ 8th February 2014, 9:55 AM GMT

The president of Kazakhstan has apparently suggested changing the country's name

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26082740

What should we suggest to him?

Bongo Bongo land

Or

The Cinnamons

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 8th February 2014, 1:15 AM GMT

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/07/ukraine-us-eu-victoria-nuland_n_4743251.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland said 'F**k the EU' in a private telephone call to the US Ambassador to Ukraine. She was referring to the slow progress being made by the European Union over the crisis and wanting to get the UN involved.

There are two ways to interpret this declaration: 1. She's being an arrogant American steamrollering over the deliberately cautious and thoughtful European Union or 2. The EU is shit, everyone knows it's shit and even the Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs doesn't want anything to do with it.

She is married to a guy who was part of the PNAC

"The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was established in 1997 by a number of leading neoconservative writers and pundits to advocate aggressive U.S. foreign policies and "rally support for American global leadership." One of the group's founding documents claimed, "a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our security and our greatness in the next."

The fourth reich

Quote: Nogget @ 8th February 2014, 9:55 AM GMT

The president of Kazakhstan has apparently suggested changing the country's name

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26082740

What should we suggest to him?

New Peckham.

Quote: lofthouse @ 8th February 2014, 12:03 PM GMT

She is married to a guy who was part of the PNAC

The fourth reich

I did not know that. Just read up on Kagan and the PNAC, they do want an American led world with lots of free trade, security and democracy everywhere - the bastards! It's almost as if they were set up to stop the Muslims and the Chinese from taking over the planet - the scum!

And Nuland's husband isn't even American, he's from Greece, which is part of the EU, which is Europe - and that's where Nazis come from!

Even that fascist Obama praised his writings about America's role in the world - it's Hitler all over again!

Fourth Reich is definitely correct.

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 8th February 2014, 1:07 PM GMT

I did not know that. Just read up on Kagan and the PNAC, they do want an American led world with lots of free trade, security and democracy everywhere - the bastards!

Your either being incredibly sarcastic

Or your unbelievably stupid

Quote: lofthouse @ 8th February 2014, 1:23 PM GMT

Your either being incredibly sarcastic

Or your unbelievably stupid

And you believing that an American led world is equitable to Nazi Germany and is a worse alternative to either Islam or the Chinese means you are either incredibly stupid or unbelievably stupid.

Wave

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 8th February 2014, 1:25 PM GMT

And you believing that an American led world is equitable to Nazi Germany and is a worse alternative to either Islam or the Chinese means you are either incredibly stupid or unbelievably stupid.

Wave

You think right wing neo-conservatives want "democracy" and freedom and free trade and peace and love and free kittens and ice cream for all

Ask Iraqis who are being blown to bits day in day out about how spreading this "democracy" around the world is so great

While we're in Iraq - another member of this bunch of c**ts was Donald Rumsfeld , who sold biological weapons to Iraq - that's 100% proven

Yes we really need the opinions of people like that on what's best for this world

Here's a quote from their wonderful manifesto for world peace

"And advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool" (p. 60)."

Nice

God they must love people like you - a brainwashed gullible zombie that still even now believes the good ole USA is a pure squeaky clean free country that just wants to save the day from all the bad nasty bogey men and commies

Wake up ffs !

Quote: lofthouse @ 8th February 2014, 1:44 PM GMT

God they must love people like you - a brainwashed gullible zombie that still even now believes the good ole USA is a pure squeaky clean free country that just wants to save the day from all the bad nasty bogey men and commies

Wake up ffs !

You do know that we have been living in an American dominated world since at least 1945? You do realise that we have technology, medicine, freedom of speech, etc. because of this? You do know that China, one of the greatest human rights abusers in modern times is continuing an expansionist policy and threatening it's neighbours Japan and the Philippines? You might be aware that Islamic movements are crushing both human rights and democracy and have overthrown a dozen Iraqs?

You go on about Iraq, but I don't remember Buddhist monks flying two planes into the Forbidden City and causing the invasion of Tibet.

Your belief that only America is responsible for the world's evils and that it does more harm then good has made you a left wing brainwashed gullible zombie that still now believes in good ole Trotsky.

Lofty your vision is ridiculously narrow.

First of all we are living in the American century, American values are the dominant values of our century.

So what precceding them. The European century or centuries I suppose. And where the hell do you start with that. Imperialism, slavery and war endless war. Every awful development of military technology turned on their neighbours. They reckon there were 3 world wars, the first being the Franco Prussian which killed hundreds of thousands, if not millions.

If the American Marshal Aid hadn't broken up European powers and lead to the Common Market there would have been a 4th world war, probably a nuclear one. It didn't stop the 1940s-60s being an eye watering period of brutality in which old European empires withdrew from Africa and Asia. Infact Britain and France with Israel probably more nearly caused a nuclear war than US and Cuba with the Suez crisis. It was the US that squashed that.

And as for Iraq, it was a land of sunshine, freedom and democracy before Iraq War2. No it bloody wasn't. And you only have to look at Syria or Iran or Egypt to see Arabs are perfectly good at killing each other without Uncle Sams help.

Lofty for f**ks sake go out and read someone you disagree with, challenge your views, because you really are making yourself out to be more foolish than is neccesary.

Ooh, Woody Allen has spoken about the 'abuse' claims:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a549872/woody-allen-speaks-out-i-did-not-molest-dylan-farrow.html

Quote: sootyj @ 8th February 2014, 2:04 PM GMT

Lofty your vision is ridiculously narrow.

First of all we are living in the American century, American values are the dominant values of our century.

So what precceding them. The European century or centuries I suppose. And where the hell do you start with that. Imperialism, slavery and war endless war. Every awful development of military technology turned on their neighbours. They reckon there were 3 world wars, the first being the Franco Prussian which killed hundreds of thousands, if not millions.

If the American Marshal Aid hadn't broken up European powers and lead to the Common Market there would have been a 4th world war, probably a nuclear one. It didn't stop the 1940s-60s being an eye watering period of brutality in which old European empires withdrew from Africa and Asia. Infact Britain and France with Israel probably more nearly caused a nuclear war than US and Cuba with the Suez crisis. It was the US that squashed that.

And as for Iraq, it was a land of sunshine, freedom and democracy before Iraq War2. No it bloody wasn't. And you only have to look at Syria or Iran or Egypt to see Arabs are perfectly good at killing each other without Uncle Sams help.

Lofty for f**ks sake go out and read someone you disagree with, challenge your views, because you really are making yourself out to be more foolish than is neccesary.

Brainwashed

They got in your head pal

Sorry

Quote: Matthew Stott @ 8th February 2014, 2:14 PM GMT

Ooh, Woody Allen has spoken about the 'abuse' claims:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a549872/woody-allen-speaks-out-i-did-not-molest-dylan-farrow.html

He's alleged to have ploughed so many Farrows I' surprised he's not a farmer.