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Quote: Kevin Murphy @ June 9 2013, 9:11 AM BST
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Mrs Slocombe would have a heart attack

True? False? Neither?!

http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/rory-kinnear-offered-12th-doctor-50436.htm

Quote: Matthew Stott @ June 9 2013, 11:22 AM BST

True? False? Neither?!

http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/rory-kinnear-offered-12th-doctor-50436.htm

I don't think he's the right choice, he echoes has of Colin Baker to me.

If you keep saying Rory Kinnear very fast it sounds a bit like 'Broken Ear', which is a Tintin book. Perhaps there has been some confusion with Steven Moffat's next screenplay!

Interesting piece here. http://www.newstatesman.com/lifestyle/2013/06/i-was-manic-pixie-dream-girl-now-i'm-busy-casting-spells-myself

well it won't let me paste all address as link for some reason but type in the black bits if you can be arsed! :)

Quote: Marc P @ July 8 2013, 9:50 AM BST

Interesting piece here. http://www.newstatesman.com/lifestyle/2013/06/i-was-manic-pixie-dream-girl-now-i'm-busy-casting-spells-myself

well it won't let me paste all address as link for some reason but type in the black bits if you can be arsed! :)

Yes, interesting. However, while I certainly agree that Moffat in particular doesn't give much depth to any female character, I do get the feeling the author of this piece has invented a stereotype and then tried to fit the Who companions into it.

http://www.newstatesman.com/lifestyle/2013/06/i-was-manic-pixie-dream-girl-now-i%E2%80%99m-busy-casting-spells-myself

My link seems to work.

Quote: Nogget @ July 8 2013, 10:58 AM BST

My link seems to work.

No need to boast!

Quote: Nogget @ July 8 2013, 10:58 AM BST

My link seems to work.

Actually, no.

But assuming the New Statesmen article details how Moffat can't write different female characters and always recreates the same spunky, wise-cracking dirty-bitch types then yeah, it's right.

I doubt if even he could pass the Pepsi challenge on his own lines and spot the difference between River, Clara or Amy without the name cues or the presence of the word 'Sweetie'.

Or 'spoilers'. Sick

I only read a bit but she seems a bit of a nutjob.

A 26 year old writer who used to have an eating disorder and reads feminist theory in the 'downtime' when other people are knitting or jogging. She's as much a cliché as her subject.

"For me, Manic Pixie Dream Girl was the story that fit." You mean fitted.

"Men write women, and they re-write us, for revenge. It's about obsession, and control." Polish that grudge. You could write article after paid article, shining that fatuously dull half-truth.

Quote: Nogget @ July 8 2013, 10:58 AM BST

Yes, interesting. However, while I certainly agree that Moffat in particular doesn't give much depth to any female character, I do get the feeling the author of this piece has invented a stereotype and then tried to fit the Who companions into it.

http://www.newstatesman.com/lifestyle/2013/06/i-was-manic-pixie-dream-girl-now-i%E2%80%99m-busy-casting-spells-myself

My link seems to work.

Dear Lord what a droningly bad example of poorly researched bad writing. How the hell do so many people get major writing jobs who can't write for toffee?

It's all about herself and drearily so.

And she seems to have made the awesome twin mistakes of lousy research (she seems to have entirely missed the first two companions neither of whom were the least bit dreamy) and over identification.

Dr Who has with few exceptions over the last couple of years just been drivel. With badly written characters of every gender. Poor Matt Smith's Dr has been a manic child man and a nuisance.

And as for moaning on about women not being heroines in adventures, then sweety you're reading the wrong books.

She's clearly never watched a horror film as they're filled with heroines, and a huge number of them end with the sole survivor being a woman.

An interesting article.

Generally, I find the problem with the depiction of women in all forms of literature is not about the woman herself - it is that all her interactions are focused on or about men.

It fails the Bechdel test - have two named female characters, talk to each other, about something other than men.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test

The woman then becomes defined by the stronger male character (such as the Doctor) with whom she spends nearly all her time.

Personally I don't give a shit about the depiction of men in literature. That could be a different issue but we are about fifty years on since 1960's - I am no mathematician - and I have only ever worked with one editor in TV and fiction publishing that was male. And all fiction is about relationships men to women , women to women, men to then, boys to hawks. Make your own stories.