Jonny Pelham has become one of the most disarmingly hilarious comics in the UK by building his punchlines on a bedrock of unflinching honesty. There's a big difference between the comedy cliche of "saying the unsayable", and being able to find the humanity and authenticity in a subject that people don't want to talk about. We talk about his new Edinburgh Fringe show Optimism Over Despair, and he leads us through the experience at that show's core: his reflections over using his set on Live At The Apollo to discuss the sexual abuse he experienced as a child. We also learn about his clinical "maladaptive daydreaming", and what it's like to always come with a trigger warning.

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