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lofthouse

  • Wednesday 14th April 2021, 11:07pm
  • Nowhere, England
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Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 14th April 2021, 1:45 AM

The great 1984, one of the most widely read and influential novels, said my many to be an easy read. :S Well I'm trying to finally read this short novel but just find it unremittingly bleak and unrewarding. I can see it's very well realised and prophetic and important, and his construction of new phrases and general writing ability is indeed brilliant but my god, the endless drudgery of the narrative is too much. I wonder how many have topped themselves reading it. :(

Stick with it

I found it tedious at the beginning but you find it gets more and more engrossing

Not a great book, book certainly a good one

I prefer Animal Farm

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Teddy Paddalack

  • Wednesday 14th April 2021, 11:44pm
  • Everton, England
  • 3,469 posts

Neither works for me, I am not saying they're bad I just don't rate them myself. I can understand them and I agree with his stance against totalitarianism at both ends of the scale.
I just find his writing style as depressing as Steinbeck's , perhaps its flippancy on my part I don't know but it all feels like 'Despair by proxy'.

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Firkin

  • Thursday 15th April 2021, 2:07am [Edited]
  • United Kingdom
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Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 14th April 2021, 1:45 AM

The great 1984, (

As a dyslexic George Orwel is my absolute favourite, in that he is easy to read and a visionary. Animal farm is only around 200 pages, consider the concepts and story he gets over in such as short time. 1984 also has some powerful concepts: room 101 , big brother, both titles to popular current shows. Steinbeck's of Mince and Men is also only around 200 pages and yet packs a punch. Indulge in pleonasm if that's what you like Teddy, but you're clearly wrong and that's according to two of the great classical writers and the great moves they spawned. Also everyone in my beer garden plus mi mum says you're talking bollocks. Wave That said, I respect your point of view (even though it's wrong).

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Teddy Paddalack

  • Thursday 15th April 2021, 7:25am
  • Everton, England
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Well I'm hard likely to start arguing with your mum.

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Michael Monkhouse

  • Wednesday 5th May 2021, 6:06pm
  • Eternal City, Italy
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Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 14th April 2021, 1:45 AM

The great 1984, one of the most widely read and influential novels, said my many to be an easy read. :S Well I'm trying to finally read this short novel but just find it unremittingly bleak :(

Yeah, Orwell was renowned for his knockabout Benny hill comedy. He's always my first choice when I want to piss myself and I've finished Mr Bean. What a disappointment.

Quote: Teddy Paddalack @ 14th April 2021, 7:43 AM

It's just syllabus bullshit along with Lord of the Flies ?

Definitely. It was so obviously written to be studied in the fifth form.
The conch represents order. Order is represented by the cinch. The conch symbolises order, which is symbolised by the conch, which symbolises order. Order in the book is symbolised by the conch. The conch exists, but the conch is also a symbol. A symbl of order. Order is represented by the symbolic conch, a symbol of order.
At the end of the novel, order breaks down and... THE CONCH BREAKS. What does this symbolise?

Kes, on the other hand, is awesome. Like The Catcher in the Rye, I didn't get much out of it the first time, but gradually fell in love with it. The film is a masterpiss too.

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Michael Monkhouse

  • Wednesday 5th May 2021, 9:08pm
  • Eternal City, Italy
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Quote: Firkin @ 15th April 2021, 2:07 AM

As a dyslexic George Orwell

Huh?
Yeah, it's amazing how much Steinbeck crams into Of Mice and Men - all the major themes - remaining readable. Classic.

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Hercules Grytpype Thynne

  • Sunday 6th June 2021, 10:58am [Edited]
  • England
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Just started a newish biog.(2019) on the comedy genius that was Ken Dodd - was fortunate enough to see him live once, front row seat, slap bang in the middle of the theatre. What a night that was! Later, still chuckling as I got into bed trying to remember all the jokes that came at us like a machine gun!

But I digress. Not often I burst out laughing reading a book, but within a couple of pages it happened twice.

Fom.........."Happiness and Tears" by Louis Barfe"

Talking about Dodd's reasonably successful stint, for an English comic, at the notorious Glasgow Empire where..............Morecambe & Wise walked off to the sound of their own footsteps, Des O'Connor feigned a faint, to get off stage early and was carried off, and where, as Mike & Bernie Winters walked on, a voice from the back of the theatre shouted "F**k, there's two of them!!" Laughing out loud

And when Dodd was appearing at the Chiswick Empire, his local digs landlady confided in him that her husband loved eels for his tea, but she had to stop giving them to him, because "when 'e's had eels, he starts making a nuisance of 'imself in the middle of the night" Laughing out loud

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beaky

  • Sunday 6th June 2021, 11:06am
  • Malaga and Brighton, United Kingdom
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I have a marvellous image of the landlady in a quilted housecoat with her hair in curlers.

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Michael Monkhouse

  • Monday 7th June 2021, 12:49pm
  • Eternal City, Italy
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By a curious coincidence, I was just watching Ken Dodd's interview with the Beatles. Lovely stuff. I bet you never thought I'd say anything positive.
Reading Philip Norman's John Lennon autobiography. According to Wikipedia, John Lennon was an English pop star in the Beatles, an English pop group.

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john tregorran

  • Monday 7th June 2021, 8:48pm
  • mornington,victoria, Australia
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If you've read the excellent comedy chronicles on here you'll discover that some,Eddie Braben,for example,worked very hard for Dodd's success.

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Hercules Grytpype Thynne

  • Monday 7th June 2021, 11:40pm
  • England
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Quote: john tregorran @ 7th June 2021, 8:48 PM

If you've read the excellent comedy chronicles on here you'll discover that some,Eddie Braben,for example,worked very hard for Dodd's success.

I read all the Chronicles, avidly, and therefore did know that, and it was when Dodd had finished with him, that Braben went on to write for M&W

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Chappers

  • Tuesday 8th June 2021, 7:53pm
  • Surreyish., England
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I've just started reading Richard Osman's Thursday Murder Club. That's alongside A Tale of Two Cities, Victor Annual 1967 and the latest edition of Viz.

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john tregorran

  • Tuesday 8th June 2021, 10:00pm
  • mornington,victoria, Australia
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I can just see Osman as Sydney Carton.

Thanks to good old Youtube I have been watching stuff I've just read.
The last was The Caretaker by Pinter and there it is with Bates,Pleasance and Shaw.Real acting.

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Hercules Grytpype Thynne

  • Wednesday 9th June 2021, 12:05am
  • England
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Quote: Chappers @ 8th June 2021, 7:53 PM

I've just started reading Richard Osman's Thursday Murder Club. That's alongside A Tale of Two Cities, Victor Annual 1967 and the latest edition of Viz.

That's clever - I thought you were one of them....................

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