Quote: sootyj @ September 18 2008, 2:15 PM BST

P G Wodehouse, warmedy of the best variety.

Affectionate, and amusing but not truly comic.

And pissing and shitting can be very funny.

And there are those who would say the canon of Wodehouse's work is a meta gag, a vast howl of fury at the iniquity of the class system. He merely did on a vast, yet subtle scale.

Also "Code of the Wooster's" is viewed as one of the sharpest piss takes on fascism.

Anger isn't shouting, some times it's a quicksilver blade.

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The reason you never marshal convincing arguments, despite clearly being moderately intelligent, is that you constantly want to have your cake and eat it. In the quoted post you start off by saying Wodehouse isn't funny and dismissing him as "warmedy", then change your position and say he is funny, but he's just very, very subtle in his angriness.

Unfair. There's no absolute as to what is funny and what isn't. Depends on your mood, time of day, different environment - you find different things funny as you get older.

I apologize, I don't want to get to the root of this philosophical postulation when discussing the 3 most overrated British sitcoms...

Quote: chipolata @ September 18 2008, 2:29 PM BST

The reason you never marshal convincing arguments, despite clearly being moderately intelligent, is that you constantly want to have your cake and eat it.

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That and he's a f**king mental.

Quote: chipolata @ September 18 2008, 2:29 PM BST

The reason you never marshal convincing arguments, despite clearly being moderately intelligent, is that you constantly want to have your cake and eat it. In the quoted post you start off by saying Wodehouse isn't funny and dismissing him as "warmedy", then change your position and say he is funny, but he's just very, very subtle in his angriness.

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Right warmedy isn't an insult it's merely a diferent form of humor.

And I believe Woodhouse had a subtle subversive sense of humor, a wry disrespect for the perceived order of the world.

And I think Woodhouse is funny, never said otherwise.

At times Chip you do seem a little like Don Quixote in a windmill factory.

Quote: Aaron @ September 18 2008, 2:39 PM BST

That and he's a f**king mental.

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n.b. accusing those you disagree with of having mental illness was a cornerstone of a lot of socialist thinking.

Aaron sometimes you come over as being redder than Jenny Agutter's pants.

Comrade.

Ok, that's just plain grim.

So, how's that 'please avoid going off-topic in this forum' working out for you. titter.

David Mitchell nominated Terry and June as his "TV Heaven", as I recall.

Wodehouse was obviously a brilliant writer in a range of comedic styles, but he made some monumental mistakes that reflect poorly on his real-world intelligence.

IMHO Terry and June is so bad its good - nuff said

Quote: chipolata @ September 18 2008, 12:34 PM BST

I'm chipolata, you dozy bint.

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Haha.
Sorry chipolata.

Quote: zooo @ September 18 2008, 4:33 PM BST

Haha.
Sorry chipolata.

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Phew. Now that's sorted I can log off and go home.

Quote: Tommy Power @ September 18 2008, 3:25 PM BST

Wodehouse was obviously a brilliant writer in a range of comedic styles, but he made some monumental mistakes that reflect poorly on his real-world intelligence.

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I am presuming you are referring to the series of radio broadcasts made whilst he was in France during WWII. Those were used disgracefully by some (who should have known better) to try and get him vilified as a traitor. Yes, he admitted he was naive, but not traitorous. Those very same broadcasts were used in American training camps to actually educate recruits to the subtle ways fascism expresses itself. And the man who created Spode certainly saw through fascism well enough.

He was just earning a living, he was never pro-Nazi.

Quote: sootyj @ September 18 2008, 6:10 PM BST

He was just earning a living, he was never pro-Nazi.

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He survived during WW2 from European book royalties. He never made any significant money from the recordings he did whilst in the camp. He was naive enough to think they were just another way he could amuse people and something to pass his time.

Nopey his accounts were frozen, I saw a program with Terry Wogan about it. And if Tel says it, it must be true.

God knows there's something quite sweet about a guy in that dark time who just wanted to amuse people. Even though he did need the money.

n.b. Griff it was the most evil avatar I could find.

And for those of us who don't know the story, do explain this whole Wodehouse thing, Griff?