Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ September 29 2010, 9:52 AM BST

I should have added Victoria ruddy Wood as well, you have to say it didn't do her career any harm. Hmm!

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No, just made me violently ill. I don't suppose she considered that, did she.

Quote: john lucas 101 @ September 29 2010, 9:45 AM BST

Re: Comedy songs. Anybody wanting to do comic songs should listen to the collected output of Python, Not the Nine O'Clock, and Half Man Half Biscuit. If you think you can match the genius and class of those, carry on. If not, smash your f**king guitar/piano/etc and do some buggering off.

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So anyone who's not able to produce anything to the same high standards as people who are considered the masters in the genre should just give up?

Seems a little bit mean, so if I can't write a joke that's as good as Steven Wright, Tim Vine, Bob Monkhouse or whoever at their best, I should quit?

Quote: Tony Cowards @ September 29 2010, 9:57 AM BST

So anyone who's not able to produce anything to the same high standards as people who are considered the masters in the genre should just give up?

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Well musical acts should at least aspire to acheive some kind of excellence, surely? Not settle for mediocrity.

Quote: john lucas 101 @ September 29 2010, 9:54 AM BST

No, just made me violently ill. I don't suppose she considered that, did she.

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I think she possibly did, to make men ill. Her millions of fawning female fans however loved her songs.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ September 29 2010, 10:21 AM BST

I think she possibly did, to make men ill. Her millions of fawning female fans however loved her songs.

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The pitiful bastards.

Quote: john lucas 101 @ September 29 2010, 10:01 AM BST

Well musical acts should at least aspire to acheive some kind of excellence, surely? Not settle for mediocrity.

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But people don't start off excellent at things, they develop and improve over time. Some of Monty Python's stuff was utter garbage but, thankfully, they didn't stop because they weren't writing classic sketches and songs right from the off.

I always go into threads where I see Tony has posted, because he's always right and interesting.

Comedy Forums. Anybody wanting to post should read Tony's. If you think you can match the genius and class of those, carry on. If not, smash your f**king keyboard/face,etc and do some buggering off.

Quote: Nat Wicks @ September 29 2010, 11:08 AM BST

Comedy Forums. Anybody wanting to post should read Tony's. If you think you can match the genius and class of those, carry on. If not, smash your f**king keyboard/face,etc and do some buggering off.

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Suck ass.

Quote: Tony Cowards @ September 29 2010, 10:57 AM BST

But people don't start off excellent at things, they develop and improve over time.

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Yes, but sometimes you can tell from the off that some people are, essentially, chancers. We're not talking about some pissy little pub upstairs where somebody's learning their craft. This is a show on BBC2 where, frankly, one expects a little better than somebody just trying stuff out.

You don't generally see the first draft of a sitcom on screen, do you?

Quote: Nat Wicks @ September 29 2010, 11:08 AM BST

I always go into threads where I see Tony has posted, because he's always right and interesting.

Comedy Forums. Anybody wanting to post should read Tony's. If you think you can match the genius and class of those, carry on. If not, smash your f**king keyboard/face,etc and do some buggering off.

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F**k me, it's the Union of Stand-Ups!

Awful people, with their "gags" and their bad hair and their methadone...

Quote: john lucas 101 @ September 29 2010, 11:15 AM BST

Yes, but sometimes you can tell from the off that some people are, essentially, chancers. We're not talking about some pissy little pub upstairs where somebody's learning their craft. This is a show on BBC2 where, frankly, one expects a little better than somebody just trying stuff out.

You don't generally see the first draft of a sitcom on screen, do you?

F**k me, it's the Union of Stand-Ups!

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But in all seriousness it was a short 5 minute spot on a new chat show, it's not as if she, Carly Smallman, has been given her own show, she's a new act who's been given a break, good luck to her, I hope she can use it as a springboard for greater things.

Too many people seem to get het up about who's doing this and doing that, if you don't like someone then avoid what they do, don't watch them, I don't understand why comedy and comedians seem to provoke such extreme reactions.

*shrugs shoulders apathetically*