The cartooning course wasn't in Angouleme , by any chance?
We lived nearby for a while - it was the birth palce of Hergé (of TinTin fame) and was very big on Dessin Animé
How many of you have done an M.A in Comedy Writing, either at Falmouth or elsewhere? Page 3
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 10th April 2023, 12:27 PMIf you have the time and money for it, why not, especially if you get to meet active prods. It may be a clever shortcut to all that networking they say is vital these days for getting yourself known to the industry controllers. I'd be interested to know what the some of the content is like, eg. is there a slant towards modern non studio single camera comedy (-drama), is trad studio shot sitcom with audience track given any study time and how much is sitcom even a part of the course. If it's mainly stand up and compere based stuff then it wouldn't be for me even if I did have the time & dosh.
Sorry for the late reply, we were having a short break in London.
The course has zero content aimed at stand up/compering.
The focus is on creating sit com, dramedy and audio comedy. We do a short film module too. Most of us are choosing single camera sitcom but there's no restriction on writing studio based ones. Have a look.
https://www.falmouth.ac.uk/study/online/postgraduate/comedy-writing
Quote: Firkin @ 12th April 2023, 7:33 PMThis one should be funny, the price is a joke for a start. Considering how many Art/Media students never use their degrees, it still looks like evening classes for the wealthy.
Well, the curriculum is openly available. https://www.falmouth.ac.uk/study/online/postgraduate/comedy-writing My BA Hons is in fine art and I did very well out of that too. Got my work shown in the ICA,Liverpool Museum, Royal West of England Academy (of which I'm a network artist) got picked up by Bloomberg New Contemporaries, won the British Women Artist prize and have had my work shown internationally. However, when did we decide degrees need to be useful or lead to jobs? Is that what education is about?
This MA might sound like an evening class to you but it's far from it. It's a training. A training in how to write industry standard comedy. It does amuse me how many people on here are so scathing about training folk how to be comedy writers, is it fear of competition or jealousy? Who knows, but it's odd to slag something off if you haven't even looked at the course contents.
This blanking bloke walks into a blanking pub.
The blanking barman says, "Don't I know you, you blankety blanking blank?"
The blanking bloke replies, "No, you blanking-well don't."
"Sorry," says the blanking barman. "You're the blanking image of a blank that used to come in here blanking years ago. You must have a blanking double."
"Thanks," says the blanking bloke. "I'll have a blanking Jameson's, please."
(Yes, you've guessed it. I have an MA in Comedy Writing from Foulmouth University.)
Quote: Hildegard @ 14th April 2023, 3:32 PM.... My BA Hons is in fine art and I did very well out of that too. Got my work shown in the ICA,Liverpool Museum, Royal West of England Academy (of which I'm a network artist) got picked up by Bloomberg New Contemporaries, won the British Women Artist prize ....
This is great to hear. I won the Cadburys National Art Comp as a kid and a few other competitions, but my family struggled with the concept of not earning from age 16 . Also Fine Art looked like the hardest fields to make money in ? Look how good Van Gough was and he didn't sell any. Plus Damion Hurst has to cut cows in half to get noticed and cows were expensive back then. So well done on your achievements. I know my daughters idea was to paint whatever she liked and get me to sell it - but thankfully by osmosis she started doing more sellable Art. I'm bias so love all her stuff, but as she loves it so much I'm just happy she might make a living out of it. As I've supported too many hobbies I'm not involved with.
My daughter's a penny-less painter!
However, the great thing about art is that it exists, and is valid, the moment you create it - wether you make money or not is another matter.
Same with a novel or a poem.
TV and film writing, on the other hand, doesn't exist till someone makes it.
Quote: Lazzard @ 14th April 2023, 6:25 PMMy daughter's a penny-less painter!
However, the great thing about art is that it exists, and is valid, the moment you create it - wether you make money or not is another matter.
Same with a novel or a poem.
TV and film writing, on the other hand, doesn't exist till someone makes it.
It does though. It's exactly the same as a painting, it still exists even if no one ever sees it. A script still exists even if it doesn't get made into a show. It's still valid.
Quote: Lazzard @ 14th April 2023, 6:25 PMMy daughter's a penny-less painter!
However, the great thing about art is that it exists, and is valid, the moment you create it - wether you make money or not is another matter.
Too true, only Van Goughts brother kept him in brushes and paint, and knowing you Lazzard, I doubt you'd leave your daughter without brushes.
Quote: Hildegard @ 14th April 2023, 6:28 PMIt does though. It's exactly the same as a painting, it still exists even if no one ever sees it. A script still exists even if it doesn't get made into a show. It's still valid.
I disagree
It physically exists, of course, but not in the format envisaged by the writer.
A script is a blueprint, not a building.
It's an interesting artefact, like a preliminary sketch, maybe.
But it's incomplete.
Quote: Firkin @ 14th April 2023, 6:44 PMToo true, only Van Goughts brother kept him in brushes and paint, and knowing you Lazzard, I doubt you'd leave your daughter without brushes.
I certainly makes Christmas/birthday shopping very easy!
Quote: Lazzard @ 14th April 2023, 6:45 PMI certainly makes Christmas/birthday shopping very easy!
We need people to patronise the Arts in both ways. But hopefully both our daughters will earn enough to keep enjoying their Art.
Quote: Lazzard @ 14th April 2023, 6:45 PMI disagree
It physically exists, of course, but not in the format envisaged by the writer.
A script is a blueprint, not a building.
It's an interesting artefact, like a preliminary sketch, maybe.
But it's incomplete.
I'd agree, it's very hard to make comedy timeless, but colour and form keeps having revivals. Mind you Laurel & Hardy kept relevant for a long time, but that relied on visual humour. Plus early Warner brother cartoons & Disney (before computer animation) kept relevant
Quote: Lazzard @ 14th April 2023, 6:45 PMI disagree
It physically exists, of course, but not in the format envisaged by the writer.
A script is a blueprint, not a building.
It's an interesting artefact, like a preliminary sketch, maybe.
But it's incomplete.I certainly makes Christmas/birthday shopping very easy!
Speaking with my artist's hat on it's no different. A painting is only art when it's been observed by someone other than the maker. It's no more valid than a script that hasn't been realised as a show.
In my various guises I've come to realise that all creatives need validation. It's like we're all stuck in emotional toddler mode, proudly showing our potty of poo to Aunty Maureen.
Quote: Firkin @ 14th April 2023, 6:50 PMWe need people to patronise the Arts in both ways. But hopefully both our daughters will earn enough to keep enjoying their Art.
I'd agree, it's very hard to make comedy timeless, but colour and form keeps having revivals. Mind you Laurel & Hardy kept relevant for a long time, but that relied on visual humour.
She's sold a few - mainly off the back of appearing on Portrait Artist of the Year.
But her big, 'proper' stuff is hard to shift.
If she needs a few bob she knocks out a few lino-prints!
This is from her recent show at the Royal Scottish Academy.
Quote: Hildegard @ 14th April 2023, 7:05 PMIn my various guises I've come to realise that all creatives need validation.
True - but if it's relevant to it's maker, isn't that validation enought ? My daughter's head teacher burst out crying when she saw my daughters final instillation - that was powerful (good crying she got AAA for that piece). You only need the masses to validate it to commercialise it, surely ? Van Gought's commercialisation came after he died - but so what ? I think his art kept him going, and his brother knew that.
Quote: Firkin @ 14th April 2023, 7:12 PMTrue - but if it's relevant to it's maker, isn't that validation enought ? My daughter's head teacher burst out crying when she saw my daughters final instillation - that was powerful (good crying she got AAA for that piece). You only need the masses to validate it to commercialise it, surely ? Van Gought's commercialisation came after he died - but so what ? I think his art kept him going, and his brother knew that.
Ask your daughter if she values her art more after someone has seen it. I'm not talking about the masses, I'm talking about people other than the maker.
Quote: Lazzard @ 14th April 2023, 7:11 PMShe's sold a few - mainly off the back of appearing on Portrait Artist of the Year.
But her big, 'proper' stuff is hard to shift.
If she needs a few bob she knocks out a few lino-prints!
This is from her recent show at the Royal Scottish Academy.
Love her Art Lazzard ! That's my kind of stuff - she's clearly got talent. I shall google...
Quote: Lazzard @ 14th April 2023, 7:11 PMShe's sold a few - mainly off the back of appearing on Portrait Artist of the Year.
But her big, 'proper' stuff is hard to shift.
If she needs a few bob she knocks out a few lino-prints!
This is from her recent show at the Royal Scottish Academy.
Has she got a gallery representing her? They seem to manage to sell anything.
And I still haven't found out how many BCG Pro members have/are doing an MA at Falmouth 😂🤦♀️