It's podcast number 4 and Rich still can't pronounce his own acronym, but he's got his old 90s rival, Charlie Higson from The Fast Show, which some people might argue was more successful than Fist of Fun. But only some people (the others would not be aware of Fist of Fun). Jonathan Ross fell asleep whilst interviewing Higson, so Rich has his work cut out for him in this long chat with the Frome born comedian and author and ex-popstar.

But only a very few bits of this long chat could be used by Felicity to induce insomniacs into the arms of Morpheus as we examine the career of the man responsible for Loadsamoney, Swiss Toni and Young James Bond. Funnily enough we prove that pretty much anything can become a catchphrase and determine as best we can who is worse, Hitler or Ricky Gervais. Both comedians are hoping to get a cheese named after them, but only one of them has won the Chortle Internet Award and is thus the best. It's 100 minutes of fun, so more like Fist than Fast. And some of the running jokes will only make sense if you were one of the brave few who made it down to see the secret (astonishingly brilliant) first half.

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