#289 Lockdown Love Poetry - Rich has received his first hand-written Father's Day card, which might also have been a break-up note. His guest is the Chortle Student Comedian of the year 2005, Nathan Caton. They chat about having to spend time with your partner in lockdown; plucking defeat from the jaws of victory in Mastermind; producing a topical podcast looking at only good news; being a Christian comedian; giving up architecture for a life on stage; whether white lives matter; and TV producers are racist. Plus a brilliant video that shows clearly if you have privilege.

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