#458 Good and Evil Tape Worms - Richard has had an unpleasant experience in a fancy restaurant, but it won't stop him talking to comedian and podcaster Alison Spittle. They chat about an unexpected pregnancy, turning trauma into comedy and when it's too soon to do that, why comedians shouldn't take cocaine, the surprise chemistry between Alison and Kerry Katona and a polite, if creepy attempt at seduction in a hotel lift.

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