#485 Chinggis Khan - Richard is in Norwich at Halloween and there's been some terrible pumpkin news. His guest is veteran stand-up and surprise social media smash, Jeff Innocent. They chat about how audience preconceptions are subverted by his brilliant act, his shady family history and why his mum won't let him talk about it, his choice to go in a different direction with some surprising jobs, how social media has given him fame in his sixties, how diversity doesn't always include the working class and some discussion of the illegal activity of taking drugs. Plus a healthy mistrust of emergency questions.

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