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I read the news today oh boy! Page 2,985

I forgot which party you support.
Does it begin with Monster?

It's almost as though putting a criminal with no morals or decency who incited a violent insurrection into the White House was an incredibly f**king dumb thing to do....

"Yet another violent Capitol insurrectionist whom President Donald Trump pardoned has been rearrested, The Washington Post reported late Monday.

Zachary J. Alam was arrested on May 9 and charged with felony residential burglary and misdemeanor vandalism after he allegedly broke into a house in Richmond, Virginia, while the homeowners were there."

What a stupid, stupid, stupid bastard

Pmq's today

Big day due to yesterday's uk-eu deal

I was very slightly interested to hear what Farage had to say

Sadly, he couldn't be f**ked to even bother turning up to comment

Again

Quote: Lazzard @ 20th May 2025, 12:39 PM

Easy.
Anti-semitism is having an irrational hatred of Jewish people.
Anti-Zionism is an abhorrence of the Nationalistic ambitions of the current (and some former) Israeli state - that insist Palestine has no right to exist and , to that end, Israel should confirm to those areas set out in the bible.
There are many Jewish anti-Zionists (they are constantly protesting in Israel itself)
And many non-Jewish Zionists - mainly Fundamentalist Christians who believe the 2nd Coming will not arrive until all the land proscribed in the Bible belongs to the Jews.
Conflating the two is like saying criticising Idi Amin and his regime made you an anti-black racist.
Absolute nonsense

Just in case Goodlad missed the explanation he was so keen I give.
He's gone quiet.
Like he always does.

Quote: lofthouse @ 19th May 2025, 12:28 PM

"The Trump administration will allow the sale of forced-reset triggers, which make semiautomatic rifles fire more rapidly, with the federal government ending a long-standing ban as part of a settlement that also requires it to return seized devices."

Full-auto rifles should be legal for anyone who is legally allowed to own/possess a rifle. Murderers are gonna murder, even though we have the death penalty in most states. The Las Vegas shooter fired something like 1100 rounds into a crowded concert audience using a similar device, but he still managed to kill fewer people than a guy in France who ran people over with a truck.

Quote: Lazzard @ 20th May 2025, 12:39 PM

Easy.
Anti-semitism is having an irrational hatred of Jewish people.
Anti-Zionism is an abhorrence of the Nationalistic ambitions of the current (and some former) Israeli state - that insist Palestine has no right to exist and , to that end,

And every anti-Semite will tell you that they're actually anti-Zionist.

Quote: lofthouse @ 20th May 2025, 12:58 PM

Israel will hopefully also fail to kill every Palestinian - but they will come close. They are giving it their best shot

Not even close.

Quote: lofthouse @ 20th May 2025, 12:58 PM

We are witnessing 21st century genocide of defenceless civilians

And what kicked it off? Could it have been the mass murder, rape, torture, and kidnapping by the popularly elected government? The government that built tunnels and missiles in civilian areas in order to murder Israelis civilians? The only Palestinians I feel sorry for are the kids, and their parents know what they voted for and supported. I have no skin in the game, but I'll always come down on the side that doesn't erect billboards in support of people who commit terrorist acts.

Barker says it's easy, then gives a simplistic answer and moans I've gone quiet.

And as for Gaza and Palestine, ask Egypt what they think of them

You did go quiet.
You still haven't answered properly.

Quote: Chris Hallam @ 21st May 2025, 7:16 AM

You did go quiet.
You still haven't answered properly.

To be fair, if someone asks a question and is given an answer, they are not then normally expected to answer the answer. It could go on for ever like that.

Quote: DaButt @ 21st May 2025, 3:18 AM

F
And every anti-Semite will tell you that they're actually anti-Zionist.
.

But not vice-versa,
What's your point, exactly?

Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 21st May 2025, 6:38 AM

Barker says it's easy, then gives a simplistic answer and moans I've gone quiet.

And as for Gaza and Palestine, ask Egypt what they think of them

It was simplistic because it was factual.
And I'm not interested in what other countries think.

Of course not, they might have a contrary view.

Quote: Lazzard @ 21st May 2025, 8:35 AM

But not vice-versa,
What's your point, exactly?

Maybe it's that many anti zionists don't SAY they are antisemites in public for obvious political reasons, but may actually be so. ? To me that appears to be so of many of the media pro palestine speakers, including the Corbyns.

And how many of them do you hear condemning the 7th October massacre? Maybe a handful of the hundreds of pro Palestine speakers I've heard or read in interviews since. That shows the level of hatred there is towards them all, as many Israelis are not zionists, but happen to be born and live there.

Quote: Billy Bunter @ 21st May 2025, 7:58 AM

To be fair, if someone asks a question and is given an answer, they are not then normally expected to answer the answer. It could go on for ever like that.

It does! Haven't you noticed?

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 21st May 2025, 8:56 AM

Maybe it's that many anti zionists don't SAY they are antisemites in public for obvious political reasons, but may actually be so. ? .

In a similar way that many people with strong anti-immigrant sentiment SWEAR that they are not racists, you mean?
I can only speak for myself and people I know - including many Jewish people.

Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 21st May 2025, 8:41 AM

Of course not, they might have a contrary view.

They have a view based on practical geography.
They don't want millions of Palestinians being displaced into Egypt by Israel as part of their 'cleansing' of Gaza.
And they have troubles of their own - they really don't need a war on their border.

It's OK, his hero the mango Mussolini is going to turn their home land into a pitch n putt golf resort

Gonna be great

So, so, so great

Really great

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