Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 11th June 2025, 2:28 PMYour best yet.
What does that even mean?
I'm presuming you disagree - yet fail to back up your position.
It's just noise.
I read the news today oh boy! Page 3,002
The trouble is - and I'm not happy about this - Reform are picking up support because of this weak, and nasty government.
I wish there was another viable alternative.
I'll give you weak (they should have announced today's budget the first day they got into power, for instance)
But nasty?
Reform are picking up voters the same way all Populist parties pick up voters.
Blaming everything for people's woes - except for the very system that they would actually turbocharge.
This government has had to do some unpalatable things because the tories left the country in such an utter shambles they've had no choice
People don't want to hear that but it's a fact
Reform have no serious policies at all and would be a thousand times worse
Blair's government didn't get this hatred initially because the economy they inherited was in a fairly decent shape - they didn't have to do all the unpopular things Starmer has had to do
This government has had no choice
14 years of utter incompetence and chaos by five different PM's and about ten different chancellors has ensured Labour have a thankless task
That and Covid and Truss and Boris's botched , shambolic Brexit deal ensured Labour has inherited a catastrophic economic mess
Quote: lofthouse @ 11th June 2025, 6:06 PMThis government has had to do some unpalatable things because the tories left the country in such an utter shambles they've had no choice
People don't want to hear that but it's a fact
Reform have no serious policies at all and would be a thousand times worse
Blair's government didn't get this hatred initially because the economy they inherited was in a fairly decent shape - they didn't have to do all the unpopular things Starmer has had to do
This government has had no choice
14 years of utter incompetence and chaos by five different PM's and about ten different chancellors has ensured Labour have a thankless task
That and Covid and Truss and Boris's botched , shambolic Brexit deal ensured Labour has inherited a catastrophic economic mess
Spud!
Constant Reform bashing, the fear is palpable.
Even Reeves had a peck today, in between Tory. bashing
Whining and blaming is not a good look
Do your job and play the cards you've been dealt
Quote: lofthouse @ 11th June 2025, 6:06 PMThis government has had to do some unpalatable things because the tories left the country in such an utter shambles they've had no choice
People don't want to hear that but it's a fact
And how exactly do you know it's a fact? Have you got access to all the books and accounts? And have you been through them all?
No of course you haven't. You're basing that assertion solely on what the government and their media friends (The Grauniad, The i, The Mirror...) tell you. (And, as Mandy Rice-Davies might have said, "they would say that wouldn't they?"). But you naively promote it as "fact" because it suits your narrative. Which is exactly what you accuse readers of more right wing media of doing when they quote something they've read.
None of us on this thread are privy to knowing "for a fact" the true financial state of the country before or since last June. Not you; and not me.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 11th June 2025, 7:09 PMConstant Reform bashing, the fear is palpable.
Even Reeves had a peck today, in between Tory. bashing
Whining and blaming is not a good look
Do your job and play the cards you've been dealt
Of course the fear is palpable.
It's a scary prospect.
Especially for their voters.
If you are not a white , heterosexual, Christian you should be scared
You could soon be living in a country ruled by a company (they are not a political party) that is essentially a watered down version of The National Front.
It's not an apocalypse; it's another party challenging the established ones.
So few MP's but they are already influencing Labour policies.
Quote: lofthouse @ 11th June 2025, 11:07 AMOn the Nazi thing, Irene Davidson is Reform Uk's candidate for Blundellsands Ward, Sefton on the 19th June by-election.
She recently tweeted her idea to tattoo everyone that arrives on our shores on a small boat. Including kids.
Tattoo on arrival. Like Jews arriving at the death camps
She also wants all migrants trained up to go and fight in Ukraine
Not to mention endless tweeting about black people and Muslims being uncultured heathens and king Charles being an Islam loving traitor (very patriotic)
This is the type of vile, obnoxious cretin that Reform attracts like flies around a bucket of shit
Aaaaaaaaaaand she's gone
That's a good thing by Reform - isn't it?
Absolutely , they've done the right thing
Doesn't alter the fact that Reform are STILL attracting absolute lunatics and horrible, horrible scumbags
And their vetting process is still clearly appalling
While Labour only recruit angels. Or did I mean perverts or fiddlers?
Ridiculous spin on a right move.
Reforms own chairman - called Nigel Farage a "prejudiced idiot" ffs!!
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