Quote: Chappers @ 8th December 2020, 9:44 PM

Champagne Socialists = someone with loads of money who expects everyone but themselves to help the less well off.

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https://www.palaceforlife.org/news/about-us/fundraising-about-us/eddie-izzard-joins-palace-fans-and-legends-to-raise-over-60000-for-charity/

Not Eddie Izzard then...

Quote: Bob Carolvorderman @ 8th December 2020, 10:30 PM

It is always very easy to be seen as being generous when you're giving away other people's money.

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It's not other people's money though is it? Thatcher (who you are quoting from) fundamentally misunderstood that point.
The new vaccine is a consequence of 'other people's money' being spent too. Will we be declining that on principle?

Quote: Chris Hallam @ 8th December 2020, 6:55 AM

Champagne socialists.
Definition:
i.e. wealthy people who actually give a toss about the less fortunate in society and who in some cases e.g. Eddie Izzard's raises vast sums for charity for them.
As opposed to:
Tories.
Definition.
Anyone rich or poor, who does not give a toss about anyone else other than them self and does or says nothing at all to help anyone.

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That has to be one of the most naïve and simplistic, and in respect of the last four lines, most insulting generalisations I've read on these forums.

Quote: Chris Hallam @ 9th December 2020, 6:09 AM

It's not other people's money though is it?

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Clearly it is though. If it was their own money they wouldn't have to run lots of marathons (and in doing so secure maximum publicity) to raise it. They could just do a bank transfer nice and quietly and nobody need know.

Let's keep this thread to comedian recommendations rather than political debate, please!

Quote: Billy Bunter @ 9th December 2020, 10:13 AM

That has to be one of the most naïve and simplistic, and in respect of the last four lines, most insulting generalisations I've read on these forums.

Clearly it is though. If it was their own money they wouldn't have to run lots of marathons (and in doing so secure maximum publicity) to raise it. They could just do a bank transfer nice and quietly and nobody need know.

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It was a sweeping statement. But the term 'champagne socialist' is always used as a sweeping term to criticise anyone who has money who also has a social conscience.
I don't think anyone who wants to improve society should really be criticised for it, regardless of whether they are rich or poor.
We have no way of knowing if Izzard gives money privately as well or not. I would suspect he does. I suspect his critics wouldn't like him any more if he did. It's the fact he is a socialist they dislike. If he was poor and a socialist, they would still dislike him. He would be preaching "the politics of envy" or something.
Your comments indicate you find the spectacle of Izzard (or David Walliams or whoever) raising money for worthy causes distasteful. I doubt the beneficiaries of those charities would agree!

p.s. only just saw that! But that post was definitely still about left-wing or socialist comedians, so still relevant I'd say.

Quote: Chris Hallam @ 9th December 2020, 11:58 AM

Your comments indicate you find the spectacle of Izzard (or David Walliams or whoever) raising money for worthy causes distasteful. I doubt the beneficiaries of those charities would agree!

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Of course not. Just your depiction of it. (I reserve the right of reply.)