Edinburgh #8: Migaloo. Rich reveals the real reason he's having so many female guests on the series before introducing two more of the blighters, Steph Tisdell and Jen Brister. Steph talks about how comedy is a great way to deal with and educate about the horrors of genocide, the awkwardness of white guilt and whether a day of being sorry is enough, plus how she Mrs Maiselled her way into comedy. Jen Brister talks about her brilliant book The Other Mother and how two women having a baby is pretty much the same as anyone having a baby, though getting the sperm arguably involved more palaver. Also eating ice cream without your kids seeing and bringing up boys and allowing them to express their emotions. Plus an excellent answer to what item she'd take from a museum.

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