Comedian and go-getter Ramon Rivas lives in abundance as an artist, despite his lack of financial privilege. Interviewed in his hometown of Lorain, Ohio, we talk about his realisation that audiences at the Edinburgh Fringe in 2019 were perceiving him as white, and explore what that culture shock meant for how he views himself. We discuss how hustle can get you noticed as well as hold you back; how to seek connection with an audience without seeking distance from yourself; and why road dogs can die in alt clubs.

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