Quote: zooo @ March 28, 2008, 12:45 PM
(the ''table'' quote of sooty's that didn't seem to work here on a repeat quote)
Yikes. That's quite a sobering thought, Thanks sooty.
Sorry to add more and a bit off topic but - if you are born to a heroin addicted Mother how long will it take you to re-assimilate to average values, expectations, etc. when your very early sentient and formative years were all experiences of poverty, police raids, violence, etc.
What realistic services are available to those individuals to help them lead productive lives and/or overcome early physical and mental damage of that, all too early, experience of our 'wonderful' world.
The answer, IMHO, is never, because despite both of the individuals I've encountered being well supported by caring extended families and genuinely having seen enough life in such a short time to be well rounded and nice people there are NO realistic services.
I don't mean to offend the other professionals that work with such young people but they will probably be the first to admit they are, nowadays, forced into spending more time on 'box-ticking' exercises, producing statistics on what they have (have tried to) achieve that the overall effect is not reaslistically going to have any effect.
We all pay for the failure and the aftermath.
CHAV, Black, Asian, Gay/Lesbian, etc. (sorry if you're an 'etc.') - all just convenient labels and of no relevence to individuals whatsoever. Still, sadly, a source of amusement. (I'm gonna qualify that later though cos I love laughing at myself!)
So why am I posting such heartfelt feelings on a comedy forum - well you started talking about various groups, some disadvantaged, and how they are portrayed in media comedy - ok? That is the influential industry many people here aspire to be a bigger part of isn't it?