Quote: Briosaid @ 28th November 2019, 10:40 PM
Watching the News and a lifelong Labour voter says he'll vote Tory. His reason? He wants Brexit and he believes Boris Johnson is 'a man of his word'!! The biggest proven liar in British politics! I despair. Seems all you need to vote Tory is an IQ of 10.
I am the guy who says the things that cannot be said because I have nothing to gain or lose from stances and am just like that anyway as an opponent of deceits and I know that I am fundamentally solid in values. As Liberal or Green throughout my life until the middle of the current decade. As someone who went out of his way to study with the idea of improving race relations in the early 1980s and was well ahead of his time. As a guy who was at an Anti Apartheid Gig on a London Common as early as 1986. As a fan of reggae music and world music with eight attendances at the Irish and Scottish Fleadh at Finsbury Park in the 1990s, 13 gigs with The Pogues from the late 1980s to the early 2000s and six or seven attendances at Womad Festival (World of Music and Dance). As someone who (very unenthusiastically) voted Remain,
I really know that I don't have any skeletons in my closet in regard to diversity whether that is UK diversity or wider. My second favourite person of all time - and the second most emotionally influential on me - was a Jamaican woman who was my teacher and friend in an all white primary school. She only comes second to my Nan. I would now without rancour ask you to try and understand the complexities of the current position in the South of England without resorting to tropes.
The "I" word is significant here. It is actually the second most significant and not the first because the "D" word comes first. It's immigration. It is all very well for you in Scotland to have a view on wanting ongoing freedom of movement but I've been to Scotland. I've seen its wonderful countryside and met its wonderful people. I was taught by a muscle man how to toss the caber at the Highland Games in Nairn (which I know is pronounced Nurn), not that I could do it but I was 9 .
And I have seen its space. Immense. Immense. Immense. Here in the London Borough which houses the UK's main immigration centre we have seen a transformation of communities so that when I went out with a girl in my office at 18 she was the only black person there. It was, I think, about 8% non white then and now it is around 50%. People adapt. All colours, All faiths. Those whose families have been here for centuries and those who have just arrived. All credit to all of us. But the pressure on services is such that GP appointments can be booked only a month ahead and not within two days. That change alone has occurred in 2019 and it affects the English , the Scots, the Polish, the French, the Ghanaians, the Kurds and the Sri Lankans. It puts the health of every one of us at risk, Further unlimited immigration will kill more.
Scottish people haven't got a clue how it is here and you kind of depict us as privileged. It suits no one. The numbers of homeless on our streets is diabolical and all of them are immigrants. To see it is to revile a liberal way among whites in this country who have encouraged them to be in pain,. It's a liberalism which is utterly inhumane. This crap that Umunna comes up with. Oh so if we leave we won't have enough cheap - slave? - labour from poorer EU countries. We believe in immigration etc. Who says the rest of us don't? If we need 200,000 a year, fine. We can do it. We can positively do it.
To suggest otherwise is a downright lie. I have to say that I am deeply uneasy about paying Eastern Europeans a pittance because to me it is like Victorian slave labour and it also keeps white working class Londoners in their allotted poverty role. But, hey, there's no restrictions there. As women from France and Germany over 65 who the media occasionally permit to speak although they don't like it and generally gag them. They came here in 1960 or 1970 and stayed pre EEC.
They didn't need bloody uncontrollable freedom of movement to do it. This is all the tripe of the rich and posh wanting their own kids to be able to stick two fingers up to the rest of us from Lands End to John O'Groats by getting jobs abroad and abandoning us. Labour' s so called deal within three months will permit freedom of movement and I'm totally against as well as re-running the referendum. Which is kind of a pity because I am sort of more than half attracted to much of what they say. The Lib Dems are worse. No referendum at all. D is for democracy but dictators on their part. I see them now as the new Adolf Hitler and feel ashamed at having voted for them so long although I know they have really changed.
Kindly, can you not comprehend this?