Quote: Rood Eye @ 26th May 2019, 11:13 PM
I can certainly complain about it: it's an absolutely ridiculous decision.
I'm a huge fan of Laurel and Hardy but how funny were they when you compare them with the likes of Ken Dodd, Ronnie Barker or, as you say, Victoria Wood?
I think Stan got the decision out of respect rather than any rational thought processes running through the minds of the judges.
To ask how funny Laurel & Hardy were in comparison to Dodd, Barker and Wood is strange - anyone who claims to be "a huge fan of Laurel and Hardy" should know how funny they are, and how well they hold up even when compared to these greats (whom I also love). The comedians who voted Peter Cook as #1 in 2004 also placed Laurel & Hardy in the top 10, above Barker, Dodd and Wood.
Laurel's comic legacy speaks for itself - a creative genius, a pioneer in his field, highly respected by his contemporaries, adored by the trailblazers and major talents of each subsequent generation (Goons, Morecambe & Wise, Cooper, Dodd, Barker, Pythons, Connolly, Comic Strip, Fry, Vic & Bob, Gervais, Lee, etc.), is still hugely influential, whose comic impact remains undimmed almost a century later, and who easily wins new fans today. Stan Laurel is a worthy #1. And *still* no-one makes me laugh more than he does.
Quote: Billygoatscruff @ 28th May 2019, 1:47 PM
How did they decide on the outcomes Kathy Burke and Stan Laurel are actors more than comedians
You might be right about Kathy Burke - if the complaint about "that's a comic actor, not a comedian" sticks, it sticks to Burke most (as wonderful as she is, she is an actor first and foremost). Barker too - he came from repertory theatre - although on the basis of his career overall, I have no qualms including him in any list of "Greatest Comedians", whereas including the likes of David Jason or Richard Briers would be dubious.
However, Laurel was a comedian through and through. A comedian is a performer with an act designed to make an audience laugh - alone talking into a microphone, or in sketches with others. Laurel did both: he started out as a "solo turn" in music hall; he went on to perform & write sketches (1906-21; 1927-54). He did stage work throughout his career, and is as much a music hall comedian as Max Miller, Arthur Askey or Dan Leno.