HOW MUCH !!!!? Page 9

Quote: Billy Bunter @ 15th March 2019, 10:11 PM

And also, of course, they're LPs, not albums, and groups, not bands.

YES!

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 15th March 2019, 7:16 AM

I think this was exacerbated by when eBay slanted the whole system towards the buyer. The whole shebang is not the fun it used to be - they still go on about their community spirit but that's a load of bollocks.

Quote: Chappers @ 15th March 2019, 9:24 PM

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That would never have occurred to me!

Oh yes, back in the day it was "so our brothers and sisters around the world can exchange goods in peace and harmony, man", but the green-eyed monster stepped in, in the shape of Amazon who clearly set out their table with honesty in becoming a cut-price online retailer.

And eBay were jealous. They don't want to be f**king about with auctions.** They'll only be happy when they've got everyone selling via a Buy It Now. Unfortunately for them their "retail stock" is/are the eBay sellers and so they MUST be reined in and not be allowed to upset the wonderful buyers.

**Especially when you get the wankers who have absolutely no idea of how the eBay bidding system works and so you quite often see something that has say 20 bids on it with only two watching/buyers, and that's because one tosser is bidding in 25p increments until he finds what the other bidders top bid is.
"Look you f**king twat, shove a bid in of what the max. is you want to pay for it and if it's above the other bidder then you will win that item at JUST ONE BID above the other person."
Dear oh dear, there are some dickheads in this world.

Quote: Rood Eye @ 15th March 2019, 12:27 AM

I hope the buyer is honest because, if he isn't, it would very easy to pay via PayPal and then, when the record arrives, to sign for the package (unopened, of course) and then claim the seller sent him the wrong record.
PayPal would then reclaim the money from the seller and refund the full amount to the buyer who then has the record for absolutely nothing.
Selling anything of value on eBay and/or via PayPal is extremely hazardous unless you can prove that the buyer received your goods - and in the same condition in which they left you.

Following on from my rant about how eBay is not as good as it used to be, I was pondering this and remembered an incident relating to your post RE that happened to me.....................almost. And should serve as a lesson to the BHF in NOT selling items like this on eBay.

For over 50 years (!) I have been a hoarder of ephemera and about 35 years ago used to belong to a postal auction house (pre eBay of course) where you were given a brief description of the goods and placed your max. bid, the winning bid then being one bid say £1 or £5 depending on the "value" of the item above the under bidder. Some of the items were "pot-luck" and this one I bidded on said something along the lines of "Box containing the contents of an Edwardian gentleman's desk - many items too numerous to list etc............................"

I was intrigued and being slightly insane over ephemera etc. shoved in a bid and won the box for £80 (!), which was a lot of dosh then of course. Received it and roughly sorted out what I would keep and what to sell on eventually. So, shoot forward some 15/16 years later and I was talking to a work colleague (who was as mad about collecting cigarette cards as I was about ephemera) about this box and that I remembered there was a single "cigarette card" (it wasn't actually card, more thick paper) for Figaro cigarettes in amongst all the stuff. So, he asked me to take it into work for him to have a look at.

He took one look at it and reckoned it was quite rare, so we did some research on it and it seemed to be a late Victorian one from a series of 12. "Don't put it on eBay!!" My friend said and gave me the address of an auction house up north somewhere who were specialists in cigarette cards.

They verified it as one of this set of 12 and valued it between £500 and £1000!! I sent it to them via the most secure post I could find and then watched online as it went for £800. 800 quid for that tiny slip of printed paper - GOBSMACKED.

But the lesson there is if you have something valuable to sell - DO NOT PUT IT ON EBAY! You hearing me British Heart Foundation?!

As a post script, I still have the box of many, many items to now sell on eBay at no cost to me - me now being £720 (less fees) up on the deal.

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 15th March 2019, 7:16 AM

I think this was exacerbated by when eBay slanted the whole system towards the buyer.

I remember when sellers could give appropriate feedback for buyers, especially those who had been difficult or knowingly wasted time. Oh...the back and forth of spiteful replies on some of those olde worlde feedback pages...enough to keep you entertained for hours (if you're sad, like me).

However, on the flip side...I hate the way most sellers won't give feedback for a buyer unless that buyer gives them good feedback first. As far as I'm concerned, if a buyer has fulfilled their part and paid in reasonably good time, there's no reason not to immediately pop a nice comment on their feedback page. I guess, in some cases, there may be some sellers who might consistently claim they haven't received their items, before begging a refund from sellers,...but, mostly, things run smoothly.

Also, if you don't give feedback to sellers, Paypal don't release the payment until six weeks after the sale. They assume, by that time, you have surely received and been happy with the item. However, after that time, a buyer cannot then go back to give feedback. I had the pleasure of the fake Derek Griffiths trying to screw money out of me in a Twitter PM for a dinner date for a fake charity. I said no, but passed the info on to a friend, who I knew would definitely be interested. The fake guy was constantly urging her to leave feedback, so the money could be released and given to the charity, BEFORE the dinner had taken place. He did this to a lot of people. She managed to get her money back through Paypal, but others didn't. What a nob.

I recently received my first nice feedback as a seller, after not selling for years! I already have a good feedback score from back then, but it was nice to see that first line of encouragement. Unfortunately, I made and listed two items, which sold pretty quickly, but have spent the past two weeks trying to get my supplies/tools in order for serious production etc. Hence, I now need to get my act together sharpish, especially as the items sold pretty easily. <claps hands childishly>

The selling fees are a lot fairer of late, I believe. I had a shop years ago, but I'm just dipping my toe back in with some basic listings so far.

Quote: Old Lady Leg @ 22nd February 2019, 10:41 AM

Funny you should mention £9, Herc. I swear...if I see this has a bid after I post the link...just don't. Your private parts are worth more than this...just do NOT! Bleurgh! CwAAOSwajRcaaUs:rk:1:Pf:1&frcectupt=true" target="_blank">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-GERMOLENE-Aseptic-Ointment-Tin-With-Contents/303065699151?hash=item46901f934f:g:PCwAAOSwajRcaaUs:rk:1:Pf:1&frcectupt=true

:O It's shown now as "out of stock" - surely somebody hasn't bought it on that BIN. OLL was it you?

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 19th March 2019, 11:48 PM

:O It's shown now as "out of stock" - surely somebody hasn't bought it on that BIN. OLL was it you?

No, I didn't...but, if I have to end an auction, there is a drop-down menu asking why...and that's one of the options. The seller's obviously developed a glowing rash and decided to keep it. Probably a rash from touching the rancid contents of that tin!

I just had another look. You know when your dog's unwell...

Hang on...you bought it, didn't you. Contacted them privately with pictures of that helmet thing you keep complaining about...and did a deal on the quiet. I wonder if it still smells like Germolene. Let us know, yeah?

Quote: Old Lady Leg @ 20th March 2019, 9:33 AM

No, I didn't...but, if I have to end an auction, there is a drop-down menu asking why...and that's one of the options..................

No, they are:-

The item is no longer available for sale.
There was an error in the listing.
There was an error in starting price, Buy it now price, or reserve price.
The item was lost or broken.

This actually states "This item is out of stock", which appears when the item is sold. If it isn't sold then there is nothing - it just ends.

So someone is now peeling their skin off in long strips.................Ugh, gross.

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 20th March 2019, 9:43 AM

So someone is now peeling their skin off in long strips.................Ugh, gross.

You would know. ;-)

OUCH! My secret's out - I should have listened to you. YET it said good for acne on the back of the tin........................ :(

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Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 20th March 2019, 10:11 AM

OUCH! My secret's out - I should have listened to you. YET it said good for acne on the back of the tin........................ :(

I wish it hadn't been sold...

I miss it.

Quote: Old Lady Leg @ 20th March 2019, 10:25 AM

I wish it hadn't been sold...

I miss it.

Well obviously I won't use it again, so I'll re-list it and let you know. Just don't use it on intimate areas.

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 20th March 2019, 10:52 AM

Well obviously I won't use it again, so I'll re-list it and let you know. Just don't use it on intimate areas.

Intimate areas? What...like the back row of the cinema, or behind the bins outside the local club at 3am (so I hear)? Nooo...I would never use it at those places.

Anyway...I hope your itchy problem gets better. Just a thought...but have you tried hanging your helmet over the handlebars as you ride along the quieter roads? A fresh breeze might help get some air to it...blow out any creepy crawlies nesting there.

Talking of eBay...over the years, every now and again, I've spotted the odd vent doll here and there, which I've happily welcomed into my little gang of naughty boys/girls. Recently, I did a brief search to see if there were any little guys in need of of tlc being offered. It seems sellers are catching on to the potential value of these little ones, because I could not find a single one, in any condition, that wasn't being offered at a far higher price than I would be prepared to pay.

As disappointing as it is for me personally, the higher price means they're less likely to be bought on a whim by someone who just thinks...hey, that's a cheap vent doll, I'll buy it as a laugh...only to receive a disintegrating clump of fabric, stuffing and papier-mâché etc. I hate to think how many have been immediately binned, due to the buyers not wanting to bother with the aggro.

I know how terribly age-damaged some of these can be...and how much time and effort has to be put into repairing them to a respectable level. I also know it can be done and means they can then continue to live a very happy and healthy life.

That said, and more importantly, some sellers are also now offering more recent vent dolls, with vinyl heads (mass produced at a factory) at ridiculously high prices. I feel for the people buying these, as they're really not worth the money, in my opinion. I do have a couple myself, but they are in no way as valuable (yet) as the much older ones. Yes, they look in better condition for their age, but that's mostly because they were made from more recent and robust materials. One seller even said the one they were selling had a hand-painted face. Unless they've purposely painted over the original face just so they could advertise it as such, no it didn't! They all look exactly the same! Rant over.

Quote: Old Lady Leg @ 20th March 2019, 12:40 PM

I hate to think how many have been immediately binned

Anybody who reads the above line and doesn't picture the buyer walking away from the bin and a voice coming from the bin shouting "Let me out, you bastard!" should be drummed out of the comedy-fans' union.

Quote: Rood Eye @ 20th March 2019, 12:47 PM

Anybody who reads the above line and doesn't picture the buyer walking away from the bin and a voice coming from the bin shouting "Let me out, you bastard!" should be drummed out of the comedy-fans' union.

That's a horrid thought, Rood! Also...most of these poor boys have slack jaws and cannot talk at all! It's a very serious matter! <fights back angry tears, sniffs back thick snot bubble, swallows>