The general pop/rock - music thread Page 178

Avatar

lofthouse

  • Sunday 10th February 2019, 2:45pm
  • Nowhere, England
  • 8,884 posts

Barnie can't sing live for toffee

Avatar

Michael Monkhouse

  • Monday 11th February 2019, 11:52am
  • Eternal City, Italy
  • 3,886 posts

That sentence also works without the word 'live'. I enjoy New Order, but even in my fan period I couldn't fathom the hyperbole.

Avatar

Teddy Paddalack

  • Monday 11th February 2019, 12:20pm
  • Everton, England
  • 2,592 posts

I don't think they had that much Micheal , they were just very good at what they did,

Avatar

Michael Monkhouse

  • Tuesday 12th February 2019, 7:39pm
  • Eternal City, Italy
  • 3,886 posts

They were massively overrated: 'The most important band since the Beatles / Stones... They've dominated the charts like no others... They changed the course of popular music..'. Huh? My personal favourite was 'Electronic is one of the greatest albums ever made.'

Avatar

lofthouse

  • Tuesday 12th February 2019, 8:52pm
  • Nowhere, England
  • 8,884 posts

Without the legacy of Joy Division they probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere

They did some goodies though - blue Monday and true faith etc

Too disco-ey for me though

Always sounded much better when they rock things up a bit and Hookys base is damn cool

Avatar

Teddy Paddalack

  • Tuesday 12th February 2019, 10:04pm
  • Everton, England
  • 2,592 posts

I rate and like more Manchester bands than Liverpool ones from 10cc to the Stone Roses New Order, the Smiths to Magazine. The thing for me about New Order was that they were never too far ahead but never behind they just hit the mood of the time perfectly right down to Three Lions which is one hell of a leap from New Dawn Fades.
By the way make no mistake about the influence of 10cc on the Manchester sound as Strawberry Studios were as influential as Tony Wilson and his label .
Sheffield and Glasgow have had a good go at shaping the English sound as well and for me the West Midlands is the home of hard/ heavy rock and an absolute pool of talent in the genre.

Avatar

Billy Bunter

  • Tuesday 12th February 2019, 11:16pm
  • The Sussex Coast, England
  • 602 posts
Quote: Teddy Paddalack @ 12th February 2019, 10:04 PM

I rate and like more Manchester bands than Liverpool ones from 10cc to the Stone Roses New Order, the Smiths to Magazine.

The Hollies and Freddie & the Dreamers

Avatar

Teddy Paddalack

  • Wednesday 13th February 2019, 7:56am
  • Everton, England
  • 2,592 posts

I don't really remember much about the Hollies or Freddy and the Dreamers apart from the odd single. But like everything if they evoke the memories of you era then they work for you.

Avatar

Michael Monkhouse

  • Thursday 14th February 2019, 1:42pm [Edited]
  • Eternal City, Italy
  • 3,886 posts

It amazes me that even now, every New Order comment brings up Joy Division. I can't imagine Hooky being grilled on his six years in Freebass, or Revenge's ''''''''''classic'''''''''' first and last album. I'd like to think it tells you something about JD, but I suspect it tells you more about NO. Recently there was a poll to find their best 20 sings, and it was surprisingly difficult, especially when you consider I used to be a megafan, and they've never definitively split over nearly 40 years. I'm far less on top of the Beatles, but I could probably reel off 20 from one year alone.
New Order are fine, but the fascination was more Stance than Substance (see what I etc). The cult of Factory, Tony Wilson, Joy Division, the Hassie and Dry Bar, even the artwork and enigmatic song titles... Strip it all away and there's relatively little in terms of both quality and quantity. The most influential band since the Beatles, eh?