- Friday 21st November 2008, 3:09am [Edited]
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Quote: Mark @ November 20 2008, 11:57 AM GMT
Thanks for the report on this Seefacts.
I'm a big fan of Frankie Boyle's TV work, so it's a shame to hear that he hasn't quite managed to transfer the quick witted magic to his live tour.
I don't think he's much of a wit actually. He's got some fantastic one-liners, but all his stuff is pre-written and he's not got a lot of it.
No one on that show says anything spontaneous, bar David Mitchell who is far quicker than any of them.
Quote: Johnny Green @ November 20 2008, 12:54 PM GMT
Yeah that is a poor encore to shoe ratio; only one in 50 pairs!
Note to self: Proof read.
Quote: Griff @ November 20 2008, 12:12 PM GMT
The comedians on MTW are as sharp-witted a bunch of comedians as you could find anywhere, I'm sure of that.
Having said that, I know someone who's worked on MTW, and also once chatted to someone who is a gag-writer for a big-name comic, and they both tell tales of much pre-planning and preparation. The comics turn up at the set with long lists of pre-written gags, topical and otherwise. Some written by themselves, some written by their gag writers. Obviously the "can you give us five minutes on football/the royals/whatever" bits are written in advance by the comics who bring the routine with them to the show. Plus the games are played over and over again until enough good gags come out to fill the airtime.
But despite all the prep, once they all start interacting the improvised gags start coming out, and some of those are the best jokes of all. But not all of them, which is why I'm glad there's a whole bunch of top gags in people's pockets that have been worked on in advance.
(Also obviously the presenter's script is written by a team of staff writers, as with HIGNFY etc.)
The 'few minutes on the Royals' isn't even stuff written for the show, it's just stand up crow-barred in. All the comics just shoe-horn in whatever they can from the act.
I doubt much of MTW is really ad-libbed, even less so that HIGNFY - where someone like Paul Merton knows how to do it, or Frank Skinner the other week who put in the best comedian performance in years on that show. Most of the MTW are rubbish, lets be honest and couldn't rustle up an ad-lib between them.
HIGNFY presenter script used to be written by Deayton of course and it's style was carried on after he left - hence the trade-mark joke style still be present.