Quote: Chris Hallam @ 2nd July 2020, 6:58 AMSo just to be clear, when Trump said:
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
You are saying this was 'fake news'?
Even though it's clearly on film and he's never denied saying it.
As I said, the media and Trump's detractors love to take his words out of context in order to portray him as a racist.
First of all, what he said was true: Mexicans and other illegal illegal immigrants from Central America do bring drugs into the country. They do commit crimes. They do rape people. You'll also notice that he didn't say that every Mexican was a bad person, and even explicitly said so.
Here are the official figures from the state of Texas where I live. This is but one state of fifty, but I see the results of these crimes on a regular basis.
These figures do not attempt to allege that foreign nationals in the country illegally commit more crimes than other groups. It simply identifies thousands of crimes that should not have occurred and thousands of victims that should not have been victimized because the perpetrator should not be here. It is also important to note that these figures represent the minimum number of crimes associated with criminal illegal aliens:
These figures only count arrests in Texas for state offenses. These individuals may have criminal records in other states.
These figures only represent offenses and convictions that are associated with arrest events that occurred between June 1, 2011 and May 31, 2020.
The criminal activity for individuals identified as illegal while in prison is under represented for this time period because they may have been incarcerated during the time frame used in this report.
These figures do not count federal criminal charges.
These figures do not include similar data for foreign nationals who are lawfully in the country and commit state criminal offenses.
Individuals whose lawful presence was determined while in prison may or may not be currently incarcerated.
https://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm
Texas is heavily Hispanic and the city where I live is only 25% white. A very large percentage of my friends are of Mexican heritage, and most of them voted for Trump in 2016 and will do so again in November. Why would they support a president who expressed racism against them. Are they racists for voting for him? That's what is said about white Trump voters.
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 2nd July 2020, 6:58 AMOr when he defended a group dominated by White Supremacists involved in the Charlottesville violence in 2017. "You also had some very fine people on both sides."
You are saying this was 'fake news'?
Even though it's clearly on film and he's never denied saying it.
Again with the selective quotations. Have you ever read the entire transcript? It's here if you'd like to read it: https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/
The relevant portion, including prescient remarks about tearing down statues:
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn't put themselves - and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down - excuse me, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?"
Reporter: "I do love Thomas Jefferson."
Trump: "Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue?
"So you know what, it's fine. You're changing history. You're changing culture. And you had people - and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists - because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.
"Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."
Reporter: "Sir, I just didn't understand what you were saying. You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly? I just don't understand what you were saying."
Trump: "No, no. There were people in that rally - and I looked the night before - if you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I'm sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people - neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them.
"But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest, and very legally protest - because, I don't know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn't have a permit. So I only tell you this: There are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country - a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country.
Here are a couple decidely non-racist quotes from the remarks that President Trump made that day:
"As I said on - remember, Saturday - we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America."
"The driver of the car is a murderer. And what he did was a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing."
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 2nd July 2020, 6:58 AMOr when he tweeted to four female ethnic minority members of Congress that they should "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came" (even though three of them were born in the US anyway).
More 'fake news' I suppose?Because to me, a white telling a group of black people to go back where they came from, is almost as clear cut an example of racism you can possibly get.
Again, more selective quotes. The actual quote:
"Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can't leave fast enough."
So he didn't tell anyone to leave America, he told them to put their money where their mouth is and show how they can fix really screwed up places. If they can do that, fixing the United States would be a breeze.
I'll leave these news stories for something to chew on:
Virginia Democrats are proposing legislation which would reduce assault on a police officer to a misdemeanor. It's a felony to abuse animals in the state, so we can see how much they value the police officers who protect them. https://twitter.com/MelLeonor_/status/1276591533924462596
A (white) BLM protestor was arrested for shooting an innocent bystander at a protest in Utah. Why didn't it get the same coverage as the scumbag who ran over people at the Charlottesville protest? https://universe.byu.edu/2020/06/30/provo-police-arrest-two-after-mondays-shooting-at-protest/
Here's a Republican, African-American sheriff in Florida who has promised to deputize every gun owner in the county if BLM brings violent protest to his jurisdiction:
