I read the news today oh boy! Page 2,018

21st Century politics: If you don't like the outcome of a vote, lie, cheat, attack, smear, sue, berate, belittle, and insist on another election until the "correct" result is chosen. Whatever it takes.

Look at the United States: Donald Trump won a legitimate election, but the Democrats are still trying to undo it more than 2 years later. The 2020 election cycle is already under way!

You could have started by saying that although Donald Trump got less votes then his opponent, that would have lent strength to your argument. Also if you could have added that the lies started at his inauguration in relation to crowd size, or the fact that he led the the Obama Kenyan scandal then hid his grades paid off a few porn stars then brought all his foreign relatives in by plane while holding children in cages at the land border.
If that would have been the start then it may have piqued my interest. Sadly for me the man is hideous moral vacuum . Now while I can't blame him for dodging Vietnam I do think that he makes a poor Commander in Chief especially given all the brave troops you have ?

Local BBC breakfast news anchor this morning "You may (heh) have heard in the main news that the government has lost......................."

MAY!?!? FUCKING MAY HAVE HEARD?!?! The f**king news this morning is nothing but all this bollocks. I could not get away from it at all - it was even on CNN.

How much this is costing the Beeb is mind boggling, as they bring their two main anchor people down from Manchester to sit inside a glass box outside the Houses of Wankers and interview anyone who'd care to spout their penny's-worth, and go on and on and on with the same questions that we have had to suffer for the last two years, or is that a decade ago? Certainly, seems like it.

I am sick and tired of listening to the whole load of crap from these shit mongers.

Quote: Teddy Paddalack @ 13th March 2019, 8:37 AM

the 'Polarisation' has to stop and we have to find common ground, because referring to each other as idiots isn't helping anyone.

Good point, lets sort this all out once and for all. List of common ground:

1) We are all fed up with lying politicians, EU, UK the lot of them.

2) We're fed up with how long Brexit is taking and how apparently incompetent and self serving UK politicians are.

3) Most of us like cheese.

There's got to be more. Huh?

I like walking with my hands behind my back like a Frenchman and I have the guttural tones of a German.

As I've said before, I've never believed Brexit was going to happen.

The problem for politicians at Westminster is how to kill it while still appearing keen to honour the will of 52% of the people who cared enough about it to get off their arses and go and vote.

Rood lets have it right the a 2nd Referendum could be the saving of Brexit, now that everyone one knows what it entails they can still support it and vote , in the same massive numbers.
People who think a Remain win is a given are fooling themselves. Take the West Midlands the ethnic vote for Leave is massive as they know if we stop free movement of Europeans we will have to massively increase Commonwealth , Asian and Sub Saharan Africans to fill the required quota.

On the Left of Labour people know they need out in order to Nationalise industry. The fisherman want it so they can increase their catch and lower the competition. etc etc.

This whole thing is now a casserole of nonsense and it needs sorting and I don;'t see why a well informed vote by the people armed with the facts and aware of scare stories shouldn't be allowed to break the impasse,

As a caveat I would suggest that if a 2nd one is ran that JRM be made a 'Supremo' who can trigger a no deal withdrawal the next day if he has so much as a one vote majority.

That way all the lights can go out and we can get down to the business of shooting at each other from behind bins in the street :P

Liverpool actress Tina Malone was in court today for breaching a court order regarding the anonymity of Jon Venables.

She's a woman and this the 21st-century and so, predictably, she wasn't sent to jail.

I don't think Tommy Robinson would have been treated so leniently.

I think you mean Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon Rood. Some of his other names are Andrew McMaster, Paul Harris, Wayne King so he could have been let off under those or others, we will never know.

I've been following the Venezuela blackout. It's been six days now, so things must be really bad there. Hospitals without enough power, food storage failing, among other things. The longer it goes on, the more impact it will have. Their power infrastructure must be pretty shit for things not to have improved since it started.

No point in having another EU referendum while those who get the minority vote just keep asking for more and more referendums until they get the answer they want. So any new referendum has to make it absolutely clear that this is the LAST one for some years to come.

Someone called Hazel Wand has the right idea and posted this on Facebook.

Hazel Wand
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So much talk about another referendum or "Peoples Vote" but no discussion on the vital wording and how to stop endless requests for more referendums. Here are my suggestions.

https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21APbZ7LtU%2DcJ4dbg&cid=7F0E737AF6EE4172&id=7F0E737AF6EE4172%21105&parId=7F0E737AF6EE4172%21104&o=OneUp

I've cropped out the form and made it more easily visible here:

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But remember that the UK has to go cap in hand to all 27 of the EU27 leaders to get permission to extend Article 50 time limit, because there is insufficient time to hold a referendum before March 29 2019.

There cannot be a second referendum.
You can keep kidding yourselves that if you say it enough times it might happen but it won't and can't happen.

Quote: billwill @ 13th March 2019, 3:10 PM

Hazel Wand

Now there's a name to conjure with! :D

Apologies for my earlier rant.

Sometimes things just get the better of me and it's that or shout out of the front bedroom window or on the top deck of the No 9 bus.

Still detest the things that hang out in that building in the name of democracy though.

No apologies needed Herc.
Let it all out... :)