General Election 2015 Page 5

The baffling thing is why would Cameron not want Scottish devoloution?

Labor would lose 60 odd seats it would never get back, more if Wales got what it wanted.

The UK would save billions in taxes, he'd have enough to give every family a grand in devoloution dividend.

And even then Scotland's key industries would be tied to the UK, as would it's currency and they'd have no choice about how they were run.

Geographically they wouldn't get any oil, unless they agreed to take Newcastle and then there's hardly any left.

And what's more he gets to blame the whole thing on Labor's innability to hold onto the Scottish Assembly.

He fears the inevitable destabilising wave of economic migrants from north of the border when people flee the grim, bankrupt, socialist state for the sunny, prosperous uplands of England and Wales.

I will be voting and decided who I would vote for a few weeks ago.

It's different to last time.

Bearing in mind the independent Scotland wouldn't be in the EU, he could just rebuild Hadrian's wall.

Then staff it with border control workers.

That's a major infrastructure project and job creation in one fell swoop.

As it would be protecting EU borders from economic migrants, Brussells would pick up the tab. So he could wave a cheque for billions of pounds in Farage's face.

Aaron what the f**k have you done? You've turned me into a Tory you swine.

Laughing out loud

Quote: sootyj @ 4th April 2015, 5:08 PM BST

The baffling thing is why would Cameron not want Scottish devoloution?

Labor would lose 60 odd seats it would never get back, more if Wales got what it wanted.

The UK would save billions in taxes, he'd have enough to give every family a grand in devoloution dividend.

The City of London rules the ENTIRE planet

The City of London decides which party governs this country

The City of London can't rule the ENTIRE world if the world if all split up into tiny fragments

It needs to solidify it into one world order that it can control easier

So Scotland will never leave the uk, the UK will never leave Europe. The EU will soak up more and more countries. Then the same will happen in Africa. And Asia. Then your left with just a few EU size lumps. Then eventually just one government and just one army will rule over them all. A small group of mega rich, mega powerful, mega nasty bastards will be in charge of us all.

Don't believe all the 'democracy' bullcrap. We don't get a say. Nothing can stop it

Quote: sootyj @ 4th April 2015, 1:57 AM BST

Radish you're not on the same depressing fools errand as Brand et al, looking for a secret, invincible bogy man to blame all the world's woes on?

Davos. Some say it is a place. It could be a person.

Quote: A Horseradish @ 3rd April 2015, 11:35 PM BST

Isn't Scottish Nationalism neo-liberalism?

Quote: Aaron @ 4th April 2015, 3:10 AM BST

Is this supposed to be a joke?

I don't think so. They are EU people. EU is the largest state in America.

F**k europe with a bent banana, they don't like those. We are *insert curiously missing flag* British! <3 Land of chips and curry dah dah doo dee doo...

Quote: sootyj @ 4th April 2015, 5:08 PM BST

Labor would lose 60 odd seats it would never get back, more if Wales got what it wanted.

And what's more he gets to blame the whole thing on Labor's innability to hold onto the Scottish Assembly.

It's LaboUr! We're not ruled by the Yanks - yet!

Quote: lofthouse @ 4th April 2015, 10:50 AM BST

The result of the Scottish referendum was fixed.

No way Scotland will ever be allowed to leave the UK.

Just like the UK will never be allowed to leave the EU.

Why can't we English vote for independence?

So let's recap.

People hate Cameron because he's a Tory.

People hate Milliband because he's a nerd.

People hate Clegg because he's two-faced.

Who does that leave?

Farage, he hopes.

I met Ed Balls today. Nice chap.

Quote: Oldrocker @ 13th April 2015, 11:48 PM BST

I met Ed Balls today. Nice chap.

I've just been to buy a jar of tea at Tesco. They are open until midnight now.

Right-ho,

I see, it's a draw between Brussels and the evil City of London as to who is destroying democracy.
Well, I see it from a slightly different angle.

Remember Blair's credit card sized list of easy pledges in 97? I do.
Half a dozen or so nifty policies.

In 13 years of Labour government following that landslide victory, our friends then introduced 4500 new offences. (it's an official figure)
I guess they just couldn't fit all that onto their pledge card, poor chaps, and hence reluctantly needed to keep us in the dark.

This is hardly a party political view of mine. The other side has continued on as maniacally as did Blair's boys.

But telling the voters about five or six things you intend to do, then set about introducing 1500 or so measures in a parliamentary term might just be seen as a little deceitful.

The public is being given a handful of irrelevant headline policies to determine their choices. Thereafter the motherlode of things to be done by Whitehall bears little to no resemblance to the issues upon which the election was fought.

One might say that we may as well draw the winners by lot and then just let them do as they wish. It seems to be the modus operandi.

The only other option is to wait for them to introduce what they promised, then to storm parliament with guns and ask them to quietly vacate the premises before they set about doing anything else.

But at that rate, governments would last about a week or two.
Mind you, that might be a good thing.

And who knows? Perhaps the future belongs to the 'We'll-leave-things-as-they-are-Party'.
If anything, they would make for an interesting coalition partner. :)

Quote: Gussie Fink Nottle @ 14th April 2015, 12:34 AM BST

Right-ho,

I see, it's a draw between Brussels and the evil City of London as to who is destroying democracy.
Well, I see it from a slightly different angle.

Remember Blair's credit card sized list of easy pledges in 97? I do.
Half a dozen or so nifty policies.

In 13 years of Labour government following that landslide victory, our friends then introduced 4500 new offences. (it's an official figure)
I guess they just couldn't fit all that onto their pledge card, poor chaps, and hence reluctantly needed to keep us in the dark.

This is hardly a party political view of mine. The other side has continued on as maniacally as did Blair's boys.

But telling the voters about five or six things you intend to do, then set about introducing 1500 or so measures in a parliamentary term might just be seen as a little deceitful.

The public is being given a handful of irrelevant headline policies to determine their choices. Thereafter the motherlode of things to be done by Whitehall bears little to no resemblance to the issues upon which the election was fought.

One might say that we may as well draw the winners by lot and then just let them do as they wish. It seems to be the modus operandi.

The only other option is to wait for them to introduce what they promised, then to storm parliament with guns and ask them to quietly vacate the premises before they set about doing anything else.

But at that rate, governments would last about a week or two.
Mind you, that might be a good thing.

And who knows? Perhaps the future belongs to the 'We'll-leave-things-as-they-are-Party'.
If anything, they would make for an interesting coalition partner. :)

You are determined to encourage that ten page essay from me aren't you! :)

The option to wait for them to introduce what they promised, then to storm parliament with guns and ask them to quietly vacate the premises before they set about doing anything else. I recognise it as it has a precedent. Ukraine. It will, of course, require a significant American presence on St Stephen's Green. Innocuous looking women - who in actuality represent the President while also being married to geopolitical strategists - handing out bread rolls to skinheads and students from a basket. The dear Dutch setting up a television station on the night before urging absolute mayhem in the name of democracy. Those formerly known as Blairites will be very much in evidence as will the Miliband faction, Unite, all Lib Dems except Charlie Kennedy, most Conservative MPs, and several wayward Greens. I predict "the expansionist" Jack Straw will be the one wielding the mace from outside. Well, why not?

(The above scenario only applies when the SNP tries to govern Britain unilaterally - ie not until 2016)

As a footnote, I never voted for Blair and his neo-liberal Governments. Social Democracy has never been seen in this country. Only in Scandinavia and West Germany. I say "bring back Willy Brandt".