Britain's Got The Pop Factor And Possibly A New..
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:39 AM GMT, Chickenoriental said:
...Celebrity Jesus Christ Soapstar Superstar Strictly On Ice, is possibly one of the longest titles ever!
Anyway It airs next Sunday (12th Oct), Just wondering what everyone's expectations are? Will you be watching? I've only just found out it's a 2-hour one off as well.. I will be watching, I hope it's worth it!
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:41 AM GMT, Aaron said:
I'll be watching. But after having seen Phoenix Nights for the first time this weekend, I'm not expecting much.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:43 AM GMT, Chickenoriental said:
I quite liked Phoenix Nights, It wasn't spectacular but was well worth a watch. 'They' are apparently planning a Christmas special for this year as well..
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:47 AM GMT, catskillz said:
Aaron, have you seen any of the Alan Partridge series' yet? If not, I recommend you watch them straight away.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:49 AM GMT, Aaron said:
I watched most of I'm Alan Partridge S1 last weekend. A few bits which didn't really work for me, but otherwise very good.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:51 AM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
Phoenix Nights was great, it's actually a show I thought you might like Aaron; but I've long since given up trying to work out your quite frankly bizarre taste! I think I'll watch this, if I don't forget, but have really no idea what to expect. Is it just an x-factor pisstake? Is there a story? What the hell is it??? Bits in the advert look like it might just be stringing together a load of the type of dodgy 'acts' they'd be auditioning over the credits at the end of every 'Nights'.
Quote: Aaron @ October 6 2008, 9:49 PM BSTI watched most of I'm Alan Partridge S1 last weekend. A few bits which didn't really work for me, but otherwise very good.
I almost fainted reading that.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:52 AM GMT, Chickenoriental said:
I'm not too sure either, I'm not sure if it's all Peter-Kay like he does in That Peter Kay Thing, or if it is just a load of bad auditions with Kay somewhere in the middle.. Hmmm...
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:53 AM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Matthew Stott @ October 6 2008, 9:50 PM BSTPhoenix Nights was great, it's actually a show I thought you might like Aaron
Oh, don't get me wrong. It was ok. Some very good bits here and there. So I did kind of enjoy it. It just didn't totally "gel" for me, and I was generally quite underwhelmed, given its popularity. I didn't hate it.
Perhaps I would enjoy the second series a bit more.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:53 AM GMT, zooo said:
The only bit I liked was when he got stuck on his stair lift.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:55 AM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Matthew Stott @ October 6 2008, 9:51 PM BSTI think I'll watch this, if I don't forget, but have really no idea what to expect. Is it just an x-factor pisstake? Is there a story? What the hell is it???
Part one synopsis:
"It's the live final of Britain's Got the Pop Factor and Possibly a New Celebrity Jesus Christ Soapstar Superstar Strictly on Ice presented by Cat Deeley and it's down to the last three finalists: R Wayne, 2 Up 2 Down and Geraldine."
Part two synopsis:
"Who will be crowned winner of Britain's Got the Pop Factor and Possibly a New Celebrity Jesus Christ Soapstar Superstar Strictly on Ice ?"
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:57 AM GMT, Chickenoriental said:
Judging by the synopsis..es? I think It will be 85% Peter Kay based, with some extras thrown in. I'm looking forward to it, Bet I miss it!
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 12:58 AM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
Quote: zooo @ October 6 2008, 9:53 PM BSTThe only bit I liked was when he got stuck on his stair lift.
First Beautiful People love, and now a Phoenix Nights dislike?!?! And I thought you had such good taste Zooo. It's like finding out Unicorns aren't real.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 1:00 AM GMT, Seefacts said:
Peter Kay hasn't been fresh for about 5 years sadly. I'm not holding out high hopes.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 1:00 AM GMT, zooo said:
Sorry. 
I just really can't stand Peter Kay.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 1:03 AM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
Quote: Seefacts @ October 6 2008, 10:00 PM BSTPeter Kay hasn't been fresh for about 5 years sadly. I'm not holding out high hopes.
I kind of think it's going to be a bit rubbish; but he has done good work on TV; so there's always a possibility. Of course I'm ignoring Paddy And Max there; but Nights and That Peter Kay Thing, were both very good. It's going to be crap though, isn't it. I can sort of feel it.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 1:07 AM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Matthew Stott @ October 6 2008, 10:03 PM BSTI kind of think it's going to be a bit rubbish; but he has done good work on TV; so there's always a possibility. Of course I'm ignoring Paddy And Max there; but Nights and That Peter Kay Thing, were both very good. It's going to be crap though, isn't it. I can sort of feel it.
Yeah, same here.
Top Of The Tower is a brilliant stand up DVD - not just nostalgia but proper jokes and everything. Then his second DVD was just dull.
The Services, Thing and Nights were all good (though Nights 2 was going off the boil) and everything after that gets ignored.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 1:10 AM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
Quote: Seefacts @ October 6 2008, 10:07 PM BSTYeah, same here.
Top Of The Tower is a brilliant stand up DVD - not just nostalgia but proper jokes and everything. Then his second DVD was just dull.
The Services, Thing and Nights were all good (though Nights 2 was going off the boil) and everything after that gets ignored.
The Services was brilliant. I remember catching that when it was first shown, and tuning in the next week because I thought it was a whole series, only to be dissapointed! Bought That P.K.Thing on Amazon for a pound yesterday, so I'm looking forward to re-watching that; and the Services is included as an extra!
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 2:32 AM GMT, Griff said:
Yeah I'm a massive fan of Phoenix Nights and That Peter Kay Thing. I'm also one of the few people who enjoyed Max and Paddy. I'm very intrigued to see how this new show goes. The unfunny title isn't promising, but the TV trailer of Peter Kay looking so very wrong in that ginger wig could mean it's good.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 2:39 AM GMT, Ian G said:
Quote: Griff @ October 6 2008, 11:32 PM BSTYeah I'm a massive fan of Phoenix Nights and That Peter Kay Thing. I'm also one of the few people who enjoyed Max and Paddy.
Me too. However, he's flogged the stuff to death over the past few years
so I'm hoping that this might lead him in a different direction.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 2:41 AM GMT, Chickenoriental said:
Quote: Griff @ October 6 2008, 11:32 PM BSTYeah I'm a massive fan of Phoenix Nights and That Peter Kay Thing. I'm also one of the few people who enjoyed Max and Paddy. I'm very intrigued to see how this new show goes. The unfunny title isn't promising, but the TV trailer of Peter Kay looking so very wrong in that ginger wig could mean it's good.
I'm a fan of Peter Kay and most of his work, I Think Phoenix Nights Is his best of the sitcoms and I can't quite decide over his stand ups. As for Max And Paddy.. Well what a shambles! The first two episodes where up with the rest and made me laugh throughout. After that rapidly downhill!
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 2:55 AM GMT, Griff said:
Agree that the first couple of episodes of Max and Paddy were stronger than the later ones. I remember the opening one where they dress up as sailors in the disco and pick up those two horrible women as being pretty funny.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 11:43 AM GMT, ShoePie said:
Love Peter Kay's work, hate reality TV, so not sure what to expect.
I also like Max and Paddy, more so than that Peter Kay thing. Now I'm going to go into hiding!!
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 5:07 PM GMT, Dave said:
Peter Kay isn't funny anymore. Hasn't been for five years. Some people think he still is because they're seeing Bolton Albert Halls for the first time, but if you see his apprearences on Paul O'Grady, were he needs to keep on dressing up in costumes to raise a laugh, then you'll know he's lost it.
On Tuesday 7th October 2008 GMT at 7:01 PM GMT, Afinkawan said:
Personally I think it will probably be a mixture of a weakish idea but with some good gags and funny bits in with the lazy gags.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 6:19 PM GMT, chipolata said:
Is this a sitcom? Shouldn't it be in the Other Comedy bit? Also, hasn't Kay largely covered this area, rather brilliantly, in That Peter Kay Thing and the episode lonely At The Top, about the giant-nosed cabaret singer.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 6:54 PM GMT, Lee Henman said:
Peter Kay is completely brilliant and his live shows are second to none. Pheonix Nights was wonderful too. But I must say I've been a bit perplexed by Peter Kay's recent tv appearances. For instance I couldn't watch this performance on Parky, it was just too embarrassing, in a Freddie Starr kind of way. The guests and Parkie look like they're thinking "Oh f**k off, give it a rest will you?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkrIz-HAQdA
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 6:55 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Perry Nium @ October 8 2008, 3:54 PM BSTPeter Kay is completely brilliant and his live shows are second to none. Pheonix Nights was wonderful too. But I must say I've been a bit perplexed by Peter Kay's recent tv appearances. For instance I couldn't watch this performance on Parky, it was just too embarrassing, in a Freddie Starr kind of way. The guests and Parkie look like they're thinking "Oh f**k off, give it a rest will you?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkrIz-HAQdA
Kay is always guilty of trying to create a 'moment'.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 6:55 PM GMT, Griff said:
I loved his appearance on Jonathan Ross a while back, when JR was trying to be really chummy, and PK was having none of it. "Alright let's pretend we're fake showbiz pals if you insist" and then lots of fake smiles etc. Love it! I mean that might have been faked too and maybe they are pals, but JR seemed a bit uncomfortable with it.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 6:58 PM GMT, zooo said:
I shouldn't think they're pals.
He said something that really got my back up on that show. Wish I could remember the specifics.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Chickenoriental said:
Don't remember that..? Obviously missed it! Shame!
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 7:25 PM GMT, chipolata said:
Quote: zooo @ October 8 2008, 3:58 PM BST
He said something that really got my back up on that show. Wish I could remember the specifics.
"That David Tennant's a right poncy twat and easily the worst Doctor Who." ...Was it something like that, Zooo?
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 7:34 PM GMT, zooo said:
Haha!
No, Vic Reeves was also a guest on the same night and Kay said something by accident that clearly showed he thought of himself as the big star of the evening that they'd been building up to, and the 'funny guest'.
Just can't remember it word for word.
F**king egotistical c**t.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 7:36 PM GMT, chipolata said:
Quote: zooo @ October 8 2008, 4:34 PM BST
F**king egotistical c**t.
Didn't Kay fall out with Dave Spikey? So you might be right.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 8:05 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: chipolata @ October 8 2008, 4:36 PM BSTDidn't Kay fall out with Dave Spikey? So you might be right.
Yeah, he fell out with both Spikey and Fitzmaurice.
And Daniel Kitson (who was in a few episodes of Nights) can't stand Kay either.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 8:08 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: zooo @ October 8 2008, 3:58 PM BSTHe said something that really got my back up on that show. Wish I could remember the specifics.
Was it the bit where he opened his mouth?
Quote: Seefacts @ October 8 2008, 5:05 PM BSTYeah, he fell out with both Spikey and Fitzmaurice.
And Daniel Kitson (who was in a few episodes of Nights) can't stand Kay either.
I'm struggling to think of anyone who he is known to be friends with?
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 8:10 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Aaron @ October 8 2008, 5:08 PM BSTWas it the bit where he opened his mouth?
I'm struggling to think of anyone who he is known to be friends with?
Paddy McGuiness? A man so clever and funny his stand up show involved him throwing food around that he sends his tour manager to go and buy from Greggs.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 8:11 PM GMT, chipolata said:
He is talented, though. And with talent often comes ego. Therefore you will get clashes. Very few major comic figures go through their careers with no "stories" about how difficult they are to work with, or rumours of feuds with co-stars etc.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 8:13 PM GMT, zooo said:
He has so many more than any other though.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 8:15 PM GMT, Griff said:
I wonder who's got more friends nowadays, Peter Kay or Chris Langham?
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 8:23 PM GMT, chipolata said:
Quote: zooo @ October 8 2008, 5:13 PM BSTHe has so many more than any other though.
Maybe things haven't worked out for him quite as he'd hoped. While Coogan and Gervais and Pegg have gone on to Hollywood and beyond, he's stuck ploughing the same furrow he was five or ten years ago.
Quote: Griff @ October 8 2008, 5:15 PM BSTI wonder who's got more friends nowadays, Peter Kay or Chris Langham?
Langham. A lot of people still really like him.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 8:25 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Seefacts @ October 8 2008, 5:10 PM BSTPaddy McGuiness? A man so clever and funny his stand up show involved him throwing food around that he sends his tour manager to go and buy from Greggs.
Ever since I read about McGuiness (supposedly) trying to bed a 14-year old he met, I don't really consider his existence.
But good call though.
Quote: zooo @ October 8 2008, 5:13 PM BSTHe has so many more than any other though.
Aye, no smoke without fire and all that.
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 8:27 PM GMT, zooo said:
I'd be Langham's friend!
On Wednesday 8th October 2008 GMT at 8:29 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Griff @ October 8 2008, 5:15 PM BSTI wonder who's got more friends nowadays, Peter Kay or Chris Langham?
I get the (entirely factually baseless) impression that general consensus is that whilst Langham was a bit of a naughty boy, he just f**ked up majorly, and is actually a jolly decent guy. Whilst Kay is just an uncaring, ruthless c**t.
I know which of them I'd rather leave my children with, and it's not our jolly northern chum.
On Friday 10th October 2008 GMT at 4:55 AM GMT, Badge said:
Just read about this in the Radio Times, and it seems like the normally reliable BSG has got the show title wrong. It's actually called "Peter Kay's Britain's Got the Pop Factor..." etc etc etc. Back in the day I thought "That Peter Kay Thing" was a clever title ("did you watch that Peter Kay thing last night?"). He then went on to "Peter Kay's Phoenix Nights" (someone will correct me, but I think it was originally Phoenix Nights and then the Peter Kay bit was added). Now we have Peter Kay's Britain's got the oodly doodly - never mind the fact that the title is made even more clumsy by sticking Peter Kay at the front of it, what does it say about the guy's ego?
On Friday 10th October 2008 GMT at 11:07 AM GMT, David Bussell said:
Quote: Aaron @ October 8 2008, 5:25 PM BSTEver since I read about McGuiness (supposedly) trying to bed a 14-year old he met, I don't really consider his existence.
So the fact that me (might) have done that is enough for you to deny him as a human being? Do you write for the Mail at all?
On Friday 10th October 2008 GMT at 12:09 PM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
Quote: David Bussell @ October 10 2008, 8:07 AM BSTSo the fact that me (might) have done that is enough for you to deny him as a human being? Do you write for the Mail at all?
The fact that ME (might), Bussell? Something you want to tell us??
On Friday 10th October 2008 GMT at 12:38 PM GMT, David Bussell said:
Quote: Matthew Stott @ October 10 2008, 9:09 AM BSTThe fact that ME (might), Bussell? Something you want to tell us??
Pipe down, Stott, before I give you a Fruedian slap.
On Friday 10th October 2008 GMT at 12:58 PM GMT, Ben said:
I wonder if he'll pull any funny faces in this.
I liked Phoenix Nights and his stand up shows, but oh I don't know. He's not someone whose next move I anxiously await.
On Friday 10th October 2008 GMT at 1:15 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Until we have a better idea of what this show is exactly, I've moved this thread to the Other British Comedy forum.
On Friday 10th October 2008 GMT at 1:39 PM GMT, Spagett said:
Quote: Aaron @ October 8 2008, 5:29 PM BSTI get the (entirely factually baseless) impression that general consensus is that whilst Langham was a bit of a naughty boy, he just f**ked up majorly, and is actually a jolly decent guy. Whilst Kay is just an uncaring, ruthless c**t.
I know which of them I'd rather leave my children with, and it's not our jolly northern chum.
That is very sound logic that.
Having a huge ego is equally as bad as downloading kiddie porn and the day the court system realises that is the day our streets will be safe.
On Friday 10th October 2008 GMT at 2:25 PM GMT, chipolata said:
Mark Lawson gave this a glowing write-up in yesterday's Guardian.
On Friday 10th October 2008 GMT at 4:57 PM GMT, Mark said:
Quote: Badge @ October 10 2008, 1:55 AM BSTJust read about this in the Radio Times, and it seems like the normally reliable BSG has got the show title wrong. It's actually called "Peter Kay's Britain's Got the Pop Factor..." etc etc etc.
It appears as if Channel 4 have added Peter Kay's name to the title in their schedule information (presumably to try and attract people to watch it) but the actual show doesn't have his name in it. I'll double-check the title sequence on Sunday though as I'm not 100% sure.
On Saturday 11th October 2008 GMT at 3:53 AM GMT, al gernon said:
Quote: Seefacts @ October 8 2008, 5:05 PM BSTYeah, he fell out with both Spikey and Fitzmaurice.
And Daniel Kitson (who was in a few episodes of Nights) can't stand Kay either.
Any idea why/when?
I used to love Phoenix Nights and That Peter Kay Thing. Watched episode of Phoenix last weekend and wondered what I was thinking.
On Saturday 11th October 2008 GMT at 7:57 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: al_gernon @ October 11 2008, 12:53 AM BSTAny idea why/when?
I used to love Phoenix Nights and That Peter Kay Thing. Watched episode of Phoenix last weekend and wondered what I was thinking.
Kay's incessant hogging of the limelight. "Peter Kay's Phoenix Nights", the accepting of a writing award without the other two.
As for Kitson, I think he just fell out with him and didn't like how he was treated on the show.
Apparently Kay would routinely screw over new comics - for example when asked the name of a rough place in the area, Kay gave a false answer that would make the new comic look stupid.
On Saturday 11th October 2008 GMT at 9:13 PM GMT, catskillz said:
Quote: Aaron @ October 8 2008, 5:29 PM BSTI get the (entirely factually baseless) impression that general consensus is that whilst Langham was a bit of a naughty boy, he just f**ked up majorly, and is actually a jolly decent guy. Whilst Kay is just an uncaring, ruthless c**t.
I know which of them I'd rather leave my children with, and it's not our jolly northern chum.
Is this for real? You'd seriously leave your kids with Langham, in the knowledge that, while he may not physically abuse them, hed almost certainly have at least a semi-on in his trousers, every time they went near him?
On Saturday 11th October 2008 GMT at 9:16 PM GMT, Aaron said:
I'd be more worried leaving children with a member of the Labour Party.
On Saturday 11th October 2008 GMT at 9:19 PM GMT, Johnny Green said:
I remember when Phoenix Nights first came out, I had not heard of Peter Kay before, and I absolutely loved it. When 'That Peter Kay Thing' was released on DVD I received it as a Christmas present and loved that too. I also think that both the top of the towers and bolton albert halls live dvds are great. However when I first saw 'Max and Paddy's Road to Nowhere' I was a bit disappointed and felt that it was more of a McGuinness project than a Kay one. But what happened after Max and Paddy? Nothing really, a spoof fitness dvd, a comic relief single, a few chat show appearences here and there, an autobiography (I liked that one) but really nothing new. I couldn't help but think Kay had sold out and was never going to produce any new material. It will be interesting to see what this new show is like although I can't help but think it is going to try to be like 'Little Britain'.
I recently watched series one of Phoenix Nights recently and could no longer remember what all the fuss was about, although I do think the second series is better. I also watched Max and Paddy again and enjoyed it more than the first time around.
Some people suggest that Kay has fallen out with a lot of the people that he worked with. I don't know if any of this is true but I think I can maybe see why. If you watch the outakes from the 'Phoenix Nights' DVDs, whilst he has a laugh with Paddy, he often seems to be genuinely annoyed that he has to keep re-doing scenes. Also if I remember correctly, on the commentary for 'That Peter Kay Thing' he comments on the episode 'Eyes Down' suggesting that Fitzmaurice might have taken the idea and used it for the BBC comedy of the same name.
On Saturday 11th October 2008 GMT at 9:24 PM GMT, Aaron said:
What a total dick. Fitzmaurice didn't even write Eyes Down, AFAIK. He's just spiteful.
On Saturday 11th October 2008 GMT at 9:26 PM GMT, catskillz said:
Quote: Johnny Green @ October 11 2008, 6:19 PM BSTI remember when Phoenix Nights first came out, I had not heard of Peter Kay before, and I absolutely loved it. When 'That Peter Kay Thing' was released on DVD I received it as a Christmas present and loved that too. I also think that both the top of the towers and bolton albert halls live dvds are great. However when I first saw 'Max and Paddy's Road to Nowhere' I was a bit disappointed and felt that it was more of a McGuinness project than a Kay one. But what happened after Max and Paddy? Nothing really, a spoof fitness dvd, a comic relief single, a few chat show appearences here and there, an autobiography (I liked that one) but really nothing new. I couldn't help but think Kay had sold out and was never going to produce any new material. It will be interesting to see what this new show is like although I can't help but think it is going to try to be like 'Little Britain'.
I recently watched series one of Phoenix Nights recently and could no longer remember what all the fuss was about, although I do think the second series is better. I also watched Max and Paddy again and enjoyed it more than the first time around.
Some people suggest that Kay has fallen out with a lot of the people that he worked with. I don't know if any of this is true but I think I can maybe see why. If you watch the outakes from the 'Phoenix Nights' DVDs, whilst he has a laugh with Paddy, he often seems to be genuinely annoyed that he has to keep re-doing scenes. Also on the commentary for 'That Peter Kay Thing' he comments on the episode 'Eyes Down' suggesting that Fitzmaurice took the idea and used it for the BBC comedy of the same name.
Eyes Down? Wasn't that written/created by a woman? I heard it was the younger sister of the actress Margi Clarke.
On Saturday 11th October 2008 GMT at 9:53 PM GMT, zooo said:
Quote: catskillz @ October 11 2008, 6:13 PM BSTIs this for real? You'd seriously leave your kids with Langham, in the knowledge that, while he may not physically abuse them, hed almost certainly have at least semi-on in his trousers, every time they went near him?
He'd be in no such knowledge.
None of us, including you, has any idea what Langham thinks.
But I severely doubt it would be that!
On Saturday 11th October 2008 GMT at 10:22 PM GMT, Johnny Green said:
'Eyes Down' the series was written by Angela Clarke but Fitzmaurice was in it. It's a while since I listened to the commentary so I don't know who Kay points the finger at or how seriously his criticism is intended but he does make some slightly sarcastic comment about Fitzmaurice being in a successful BBC comedy called 'Eyes Down'
On Saturday 11th October 2008 GMT at 10:25 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Johnny Green @ October 11 2008, 7:22 PM BST'Eyes Down' the series was written by Angela Clarke but Fitzmaurice was in it. It's a while since I listened to the commentary so I don't know who Kay points the finger at or how seriously his criticism is intended but he does make some slightly sarcastic comment about Fitzmaurice being in a successful BBC comedy called 'Eyes Down'
I bet Kay and McGuiness are thick as thieves. Best mates in real life, so I reckon a lot of Kay's bravado towards others is for his benefit.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:07 AM GMT, EllieJP said:
Just watching this, and I've got to say some of the funniest stuff I've seen for a while. I've been laughing all night! Really surprised at how good it is actually and looking forward to the second bit.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:10 AM GMT, Daddy Maz said:
The one problem I had with this was that the "crap" auditions on the X factor are funnier as they are real and genuine, also the flogging of 4/5 songs for every act was far too much, not enough funny moments for me.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:11 AM GMT, zooo said:
I liked the bits inbetween the songs a lot more than the songs.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:12 AM GMT, sootyj said:
This is lifeless dull and dreary, not a patch on Pheonix nights.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:17 AM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: sootyj @ October 12 2008, 9:12 PM BSTThis is lifeless dull and dreary, not a patch on Pheonix nights.
It upsets me to know that you're being serious.
Heyho.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:17 AM GMT, Ian G said:
Quote: EllieJP @ October 12 2008, 9:07 PM BSTJust watching this, and I've got to say some of the funniest stuff I've seen for a while. I've been laughing all night!
I agree, and it's not being suffocated by Peter Kay either.
The bits he's done, though, have been very good.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:18 AM GMT, sootyj said:
Quote: Aaron @ October 12 2008, 9:17 PM BSTIt upsets me to know that you're being serious.
Heyho.
For disliking Britains got blah blah,
or liking Pheonix Nights?
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:18 AM GMT, JuliaC said:
I'm loving it. I liked the clever choice of some of the songs.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:28 AM GMT, Ian G said:
The medleys were very clever.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:32 AM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: sootyj @ October 12 2008, 9:18 PM BSTFor disliking Britains got blah blah,
or liking Pheonix Nights?
Neither; for saying that THIS is "lifeless dull and dreary" with the implication that Phoenix Nights isn't. Each to their own.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:40 AM GMT, sootyj said:
I love character comedy, Pheonix was about the best character comedy around.
As such I suppose it was a lousy sitcom.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 1:05 AM GMT, Mark said:
Quote: Daddy Maz @ October 12 2008, 9:10 PM BSTThe one problem I had with this was that the "crap" auditions on the X factor are funnier as they are real and genuine, also the flogging of 4/5 songs for every act was far too much, not enough funny moments for me.
I quite agree with this sentiment. The real X Factor has loopier people on it than Kay was showing. I didn't really give it much of a chance to get going though so perhaps I should watch the rest (I've taped it)
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 1:44 AM GMT, Nil Putters said:
"I think you're gonna walk it." 
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 1:49 AM GMT, zooo said:
Haha.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 1:49 AM GMT, Aaron said:
"FUCKING SHUTTUP!"
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 1:49 AM GMT, zooo said:
I bet she enjoyed that bit.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 1:55 AM GMT, JuliaC said:
I'm going to have this song in my head all day tomorrow!
"Dr" Fox!!
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 1:55 AM GMT, zooo said:
Oh god when Dr Fox did that line from Oliver, that was terrifying.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 1:57 AM GMT, JuliaC said:
Quote: Aaron @ October 12 2008, 10:49 PM BST"FUCKING SHUTTUP!"
That was great.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 1:58 AM GMT, Aaron said:
Song by Peter Kay and Gary Barlow.
How long until it's actually released?
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 1:58 AM GMT, zooo said:
Xmas.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 2:00 AM GMT, Aaron said:
That was my instinct, but then how many people watched tonight, and will remember it well enough to buy?
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 2:02 AM GMT, zooo said:
I have no clue.
Xmas is what Heat said. But I wasn't sure if it was true or some sort of elaborate joke.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 2:04 AM GMT, Aaron said:
Heat knows all.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 2:11 AM GMT, Nick said:
Thought this was far too long and that some of the songs dragged on forever. Nothing like up to the standard of Phoenix Nights imo but with some decent moments (though spread far, far too far apart).
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 2:41 AM GMT, Daddy Maz said:
The duet with the guy from Kaiser Chiefs apart not a great night and two up two down didn't win!
To hear that final song 3 times in 6 minutes? and I've never heard anything like that in 20/25/20 years since (insert 80's popstar here)
Not good
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 2:43 AM GMT, zooo said:
Definitely too many songs.
Maybe 2 up 2 down did win though, if she (hopefully) died.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 2:57 AM GMT, Aaron said:
I thought it was alright. Quite funny in places, and I suspect I would have found it moreso if I watched that kind of programme for real. A little tiring perhaps in others, and I agree with the comments that it was a bit on the long side. On the whole quite entertaining though.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 3:50 AM GMT, Electric Cornflakes said:
Anybody else suprised at the amount of swearing during the first slot at 8'o clock? Not that I particularly give a f**k, but I'm sure there will be a the reactionary minority out there who will. There was a lot of bleeped f**ks, bitch,arse,christ,blowjob and a couple of other minor expletives.I was taken aback by it.
Thought it was great lots of funny subtle touches to add to the overall parody. I thought the guy on the unicycle singing Sunday Bloody Sunday was great. Loved Peter Waterman's constant assertions- 'that was the best singing I've heard since Sonya!'
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 4:03 AM GMT, Aaron said:
I didn't even notice. Possibly because they were bleeped out.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 4:43 AM GMT, Electric Cornflakes said:
Was it also the first usage of a Facebook related joke in a mainstream comedy show? There'll be a Peep Show Facebook joke soon enough.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 11:19 AM GMT, Aaron said:
I'm really not sure I would call it mainstream, but I'm pretty sure not. I think I heard one in something recently. And I know that HIGNFY has had it, if that counts!
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 11:31 AM GMT, Nick said:
Quote: Electric Cornflakes @ October 13 2008, 1:43 AM BSTThere'll be a Peep Show Facebook joke soon enough.
There already has been.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 11:57 AM GMT, swerytd said:
I wasn't expecting much just because (as has been mentioned) the X-Factor and other shows are basically parodies of themselves already, but I enjoyed it a lot. Lots of in-jokes and kudos to the celebs for sending themselves up, especially Cat for 'FUCKING SHUT UP!' and Dr Fox (who is making an art of taking the piss out of himself in this and The Wrong Door).
Second half wasn't nearly as good, I didn't think as it really dragged (much as the results shows do) but without enough laughs in it, and 'The Winner's Song' wasn't funny enough. First half top notch though.
Worked well as a one-off. Glad it wasn't a series as that would have been a lot to take.
Dan
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 12:34 PM GMT, Dolly Dagger said:
Must admit I enjoyed it too. The panel playing themselves were disturbingly good, some of the other charactes weren't always totally convincing, but the young man playing R Wayne was very good. It was a nice change to watch something jolly and silly on Sunday evening instead of mawkish sentimental drama.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 1:17 PM GMT, chipolata said:
I thought it was okay, with some nice jokes along the way. I guess my main problem was that we've seen it all before a thousand times. These type of shows are parodied so often - and as already mentioned parody themselves - that you've got to come at it from a fresh angle to justify the show. This didn't have any fresh angles.
(Ironically, I had the same problem with last years Extras special, that wheeled out a tired old parody of Celebrity Big Brother.)
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 3:39 PM GMT, Afinkawan said:
Quote: Afinkawan @ October 7 2008, 4:01 PM BSTPersonally I think it will probably be a mixture of a weakish idea but with some good gags and funny bits in with the lazy gags.
Yeah. Thought so.
Easily the best bit of the entire show was Cat Deeley screaming "FUCKING SHUT UP!"
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 3:43 PM GMT, sootyj said:
It's rarely a good idea to mock the inherently ridiculous.
I mean how much sillier can reality TV get?
2 Up 2 Down was a genius bit of bad taste.
Frankly a half hour special on those 4 would have been way better.
I also liked the IRA mural joke, otherwise aimless and loads of filler.
Peter Waterman is not a funny man.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 4:43 PM GMT, Mike Dan-Carter said:
I thought it was poor, it didn't need to be made as shows like The X Factor are much more funny because they're real. I think this is Peter's worst TV outing.
I liken it to Jennifer Saunders' Vivienne Vyle character ripping off The Jeremy Kyle show, it doesn't need to be done as the originals are much more ridiculous and funny as a result.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 4:55 PM GMT, Daddy Maz said:
Quote: Mike Dan-Carter @ October 13 2008, 1:43 PM BSTI thought it was poor, it didn't need to be made as shows like The X Factor are much more funny because they're real. I think this is Peter's worst TV outing.
I liken it to Jennifer Saunders' Vivienne Vyle character ripping off The Jeremy Kyle show, it doesn't need to be done as the originals are much more ridiculous and funny as a result.
Spot on!
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 7:04 PM GMT, Andy Ward said:
I thought this was really poor as well. I mean, there was the occasional good moment. For instance, when the songs had finished and they went to walk off stage but had nowhere to go, leaving them just standing around confused in the background, I thought that was a fairly good observation, but the majority of it was rubbish. The irony seemed to be that in creating something that seemed to be looking to parody reality TV, what was actually created was something that did just actually seem like just another reality TV show, with far too little comedy. What observations there were were far too weak. The whole 'they only pick people with tragic backstories' thing is an observation that thousands upon thousands of people have made. It just seemed too easy. Also, yet again you see a Peter Kay programme with dwarves, which he obviously sees as being a great staple of comedy (THEY'RE BELOW AVERAGE HEIGHT! TO THE LOLMOBILE!), and I haven't even mentioned the songs yet, it was basically just 'THEY'RE SINGING THE SONGS, BUT NOT THE WAY THEY'RE TRADITIONALLY SUNG! HILARITY ENSUES!', the Kaiser Chiefs song being a prime example. In short, it was just lazy.
As somebody else has said, there's no need to parody these shows, as they're very much a parody of themselves. This probably shouldn't have been made. It was poor.
This is my first proper post outside the introduce yourself forum. Hello outside world.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 7:08 PM GMT, Mike Dan-Carter said:
Quote: Andy Ward @ October 13 2008, 4:04 PM BSTI thought this was really poor as well. I mean, there was the occasional good moment. For instance, when the songs had finished and they went to walk off stage but had nowhere to go, leaving them just standing around confused in the background, I thought that was a fairly good observation, but the majority of it was rubbish. The irony seemed to be that in creating something that seemed to be looking to parody reality TV, what was actually created was something that did just actually seem like just another reality TV show, with far too little comedy. What observations there were were far too weak. The whole 'they only pick people with tragic backstories' thing is an observation that thousands upon thousands of people have made. It just seemed too easy. Also, yet again you see a Peter Kay programme with dwarves, which he obviously sees as being a great staple of comedy (THEY'RE BELOW AVERAGE HEIGHT! TO THE LOLMOBILE!), and I haven't even mentioned the songs yet, it was basically just 'THEY'RE SINGING THE SONGS, BUT NOT THE WAY THEY'RE TRADITIONALLY SUNG! HILARITY ENSUES!', the Kaiser Chiefs song being a prime example. In short, it was just lazy.
As somebody else has said, there's no need to parody these shows, as they're very much a parody of themselves. This probably shouldn't have been made. It was poor.
This is my first proper post outside the introduce yourself forum. Hello outside world.
Agreed, and hello.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 7:09 PM GMT, Chickenoriental said:
I plan to watch it as soon as it hits 4OD.. No longer looking forward to it...
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 7:13 PM GMT, Scatterbrained Floozy said:
I really enjoyed it, but unfortunately fell asleep before the second installment. I suppose that shows something about how compelling it was, though!
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 7:33 PM GMT, Spagett said:
I also thought it was very poor. The jokes were almost non existant to the point where the results show was pretty much just played straight.
Hearing the winners song 3 times in the last 20 minutes summeed it up for me. The occasional bright spot but with massive amounts of filler.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 7:54 PM GMT, Afinkawan said:
Most people seem to be saying "very well observed" rather than "funny".
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 8:59 PM GMT, EllieJP said:
I took it for what it was.... a bit of fun.
You guys seem to be analysing it too much and comparing it to Phoenix nights, which iis silly. It's not trying to be Phoenix Nights... it's meant to be a fun parody!
Sometimes I think you forget what "comedy" is all about!
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 9:01 PM GMT, Nil Putters said:
Agreed.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 9:13 PM GMT, zooo said:
Me n'all.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 10:43 PM GMT, Andy Ward said:
QuoteI took it for what it was.... a bit of fun.
You guys seem to be analysing it too much and comparing it to Phoenix nights, which iis silly. It's not trying to be Phoenix Nights... it's meant to be a fun parody!
Sometimes I think you forget what "comedy" is all about!
I think the problem for me is that I didn't see it so much as a fun parody. In my mind it was just closer to watching an actual episode of one of these shows. Like I said, there was the occasional touch of parody, but for something billed as a comedy show, there was nowhere near enough, and many of the attempts at comedy that were presented were (as I mentioned in my earlier post) lazy, the kind of thing that anybody could have written given a spare 5 minutes. I mean, you could argue that Peter Kay is always going to have a tough time with any new shows, as they'll always be compared to his previous work (in this instance Phoenix Nights), in terms of whether they're any good, and in fairness, Phoenix Nights is going to be a hard act to follow. The problem for me though is that even without seeing this in the light of his previous work, this was just a poor show, I just didn't find it funny enough, and whether or not it's just a 'bit of fun', I want a comedy to be something that makes me laugh.
Still, different opinions and all, maybe I do analyse comedies a bit too much, it's sometimes hard to take off your writers' hat when you're watching these things I suppose.
On Monday 13th October 2008 GMT at 10:44 PM GMT, Bad dog said:
To be honest, you can't parody those kinds of shows, they do it themselves.
On Tuesday 14th October 2008 GMT at 2:21 PM GMT, maidenpriest said:
Unbelievable! The Winner's Song single is in the shops, you have to be really stupid to buy that god awful song IMO, so the whole program was made to sell Kay's Single, oh dear, I am confused because then now the whole thing is real and not a parody of X factor?
On Tuesday 14th October 2008 GMT at 2:33 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Did not raise a smile
On Tuesday 14th October 2008 GMT at 2:52 PM GMT, Scatterbrained Floozy said:
Quote: maidenpriest @ October 14 2008, 11:21 AM BSTUnbelievable! The Winner's Song single is in the shops...
Now that is ridiculous...Always all about the money though, I suppose.
On Tuesday 14th October 2008 GMT at 3:17 PM GMT, chipolata said:
It did fantastically well in the ratings, didn't it? Even beating Heartbeat (although that's a shadow of it's former self since Nick Berry left).
On Tuesday 14th October 2008 GMT at 3:22 PM GMT, Martin H said:
How can you parody something that is beyond parody in the first place? The real X Factor is about ten times funnier than this if you like that type of thing. This was basically just a scripted version of X Factor, it wasn't adding or saying anything different. And of course now we have to endure another Peter Kay single spawned from this god awful show...when did Kay become so unfunny? Probably when his writing partnership with Spikey ended I'd guess.
On Tuesday 14th October 2008 GMT at 3:24 PM GMT, chipolata said:
Is Spikey really up to much? It always struck me that his greatest talent is reaching eighty with a lovely head of grey hair.
On Sunday 19th October 2008 GMT at 11:05 PM GMT, Badge said:
Quote: Martin Holmes @ October 14 2008, 12:22 PM BSTThe real X Factor is about ten times funnier than this if you like that type of thing.
Couldn't agree more. I got round to watching this today and I'm afraid in attempting to parody the X Factor he's created something far less entertaining than the original.
Cat Deeley was great, though.
On Tuesday 4th November 2008 GMT at 2:50 AM GMT, Mikey Jackson said:
I was watching the Top 40 Chart on one of the music channels.
Guess what? Yes, that's right. That Winners Song is in the charts.
I didn't watch "Britains Got" but I was expecting that song to be... er... funny.
But it's not. It's deadly serious. The video shows Peter Kay as a woman, singing a normal, bog standard boring ballad, with the video featuring clips from the show that appear to be really poor caricatures of X Factor type twats.
There are probably people out there who have never heard of Britains Got who are thinking that this is a genuine talent show's winning song with "a fat bird that looks uncannily like Peter Kay."
What he expects to achieve from it is a mystery to me.
For starters, he's released it too early to make the Christmas No.1.
And even if it was a great parody song (which it isn't) it won't be a Christmas chart topper, because that slot will be filled by this year's real God-awful X Factor's wining song.
On Tuesday 4th November 2008 GMT at 2:51 AM GMT, Chickenoriental said:
Yeah.. Last week or the week before it was no. 2! Can't believe it really...
On Tuesday 4th November 2008 GMT at 2:52 AM GMT, Mikey Jackson said:
GASP!
On Tuesday 4th November 2008 GMT at 3:17 AM GMT, zooo said:
He's releasing another one for the Christmas number one.
Unfortunately.
On Tuesday 4th November 2008 GMT at 3:20 AM GMT, Aaron said:
*loads pistol*
On Tuesday 4th November 2008 GMT at 4:59 AM GMT, Marc P said:
On Tuesday 4th November 2008 GMT at 5:18 AM GMT, Chickenoriental said:
Quote: zooo @ November 3 2008, 10:17 PM GMTHe's releasing another one for the Christmas number one.
Unfortunately.
It's another one written with Gary Barlow as well.. so it will be soppy no doubt!
On Tuesday 4th November 2008 GMT at 5:22 AM GMT, zooo said:
I heart Gary Barlow. But really, Gaz. Be a bit more picky about who you work with.
You didn't have to say yes just because you're both Northern.
On Tuesday 4th November 2008 GMT at 5:56 AM GMT, Mikey Jackson said:
For the last three years I've WISHED for someone to release a Christmassy record to make sure that Simon Cowell doesn't cheat his way to another Xmas No.1.
Be careful what you wish for.
Bit of an unfair advantage to other pop stars having a talent (cough) show like X Factor last 6 months and finish a week before Xmas.
They FINED Microsoft for having an unfair advantage because Windows is in most computers, so why not stop those bloody awful X Factor songs!!!!
Who buys them anyway?
I don't know anyone who's ever bought an X Factor record or download.