Ideal - Series 4
On Saturday 19th April 2008 GMT at 8:50 AM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
I don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but Ideal gets a fourth series starting at 10.30pm on the 28th April on BBC Three.
Sorry, I refuse to say 'BBC3 Tee Vee.' Wankers.
On Saturday 19th April 2008 GMT at 9:03 AM GMT, DaButt said:
Johnny Vegas is the one British performer without a vagina who this Yank would like to meet for a drink.
(I'd originally typed "boobs" instead of "a vagina" but then remembered that JV has a rather nice pair.)
On Saturday 19th April 2008 GMT at 1:17 PM GMT, Aaron said:
LOL.
On Saturday 19th April 2008 GMT at 2:33 PM GMT, Mark said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ April 19 2008, 5:50 AM BSTI don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but Ideal gets a fourth series starting at 10.30pm on the 28th April on BBC 3.
I can't wait. I love this sitcom.
Here's an exciting looking trailer for the new series...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXuohAc2gGE
On Saturday 19th April 2008 GMT at 3:35 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Did anything much happen in series 3? I never actually got to see it.
On Saturday 19th April 2008 GMT at 4:34 PM GMT, Tuumble said:
Johnny Vegas was a bit embarrassing on that rerun of QI last night. I like JV if only because my wife hates him. 
On Saturday 19th April 2008 GMT at 4:59 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Series three was a bit messy, but there was some brilliant writing. I'm also looking forward to this, although I'm sorry to see Julia Davis in it - she's been coasting for a while.
On Saturday 19th April 2008 GMT at 11:16 PM GMT, Aaron said:
I didn't like the whole elephant thing. Got tired after a while. And is it just me, or are they using the thing with the obvious answer and the alarms and such (I'm sure Ian will know what it's called), much less in the past couple of series'?
On Sunday 20th April 2008 GMT at 3:17 AM GMT, DaButt said:
Quote: Mark @ April 19 2008, 11:33 AM BST
Here's an exciting looking trailer for the new series...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXuohAc2gGE
"This video is not available in your country." Damn.
On Sunday 20th April 2008 GMT at 3:14 PM GMT, Tuumble said:
Never watched Ideal but that trailer looks quite intriguing. Would it make any sense watching it from 4 series in?
On Sunday 20th April 2008 GMT at 11:02 PM GMT, Martin H said:
Looking forward to this, Ideal is the only sitcom on BBC3 that I enjoy.
On Sunday 20th April 2008 GMT at 11:16 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Not even Two Pints?
On Thursday 24th April 2008 GMT at 5:10 AM GMT, Mark said:
Our updated guide to this show is now here:
http://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/tv/ideal/
Fans will be pleased to hear pretty much everyone is back for the new series and the humour is still as dark and fun as it has always been.
The additions this series are Moz's long lost dad Keith; and Tony and Chen who are a couple of Triad gang members who start a war against Psycho Paul and Cartoon Head.
Talking of Psycho Paul, check out the video section of our Ideal guide for a rather cool musical number sung by the nutcase.
On Thursday 24th April 2008 GMT at 5:59 AM GMT, DaButt said:
The Series 4 videos won't play here in the US. 
On Thursday 24th April 2008 GMT at 12:51 PM GMT, catskillz said:
I'm a bit pissed off about Mick Miller playing Moz's Dad, as I was going to suggest he play the father of the lead character in my sitcom, if it ever got made - not that I would've had much say in the matter, as a mere writer.
On Saturday 10th May 2008 GMT at 11:41 AM GMT, Nigel Kelly said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ April 19 2008, 1:59 PM BSTSeries three was a bit messy, but there was some brilliant writing. I'm also looking forward to this, although I'm sorry to see Julia Davis in it - she's been coasting for a while.
I caught it on BBC3 last night and did enjoy it. Only, the second time I have watched it so I intend to look into the earlier series. Great line from JV,
"You'll love Manchester, it's a London you can eat between meals."
And great soundtrack, especially last night as they were doing a 1993 flashback show.
On Saturday 10th May 2008 GMT at 2:25 PM GMT, Mark said:
Quote: Nigel Kelly @ May 10 2008, 8:41 AM BSTI caught it on BBC3 last night and did enjoy it. Only, the second time I have watched it so I intend to look into the earlier series.
I'd definitely recommend going back and checking out the other series Nigel - it will certainly enhance appreciation futher
For example, that great flashback revealed new things about the characters that you'd probably only find funny should you have seen the previous series. e.g. That gay Brian used to date hot girls, and that PC does actually have a name.
On Monday 26th May 2008 GMT at 11:01 PM GMT, andrew stanney said:
hi in series 4 where jenny firsts seduces moz she dances to a song...sounds 80s disco...if anyone knows what it was could they tell me...amazing song
andrew stanney
On Tuesday 17th June 2008 GMT at 12:39 PM GMT, maidenpriest said:
Was last nights the last one in the series, I hope they have not killed Jenny off because i was really enjoying the relationship developing between her and Mos, and what was did Judith discover in CH's red bag?
On Tuesday 17th June 2008 GMT at 12:47 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Yes, I believe it was the final episode of the series.
On Tuesday 17th June 2008 GMT at 2:05 PM GMT, Lee Henman said:
Did everyone know that Gay Brian is Graham Duff the writer? I only recently found that out.
On Tuesday 17th June 2008 GMT at 2:10 PM GMT, Sofa Matt said:
Yes, we all knew that, and we've noticed that you resemble him quite closely
Is there going to be another series, do we know?
On Tuesday 17th June 2008 GMT at 2:17 PM GMT, Lee Henman said:
Quote: Sofa_Matt @ June 17 2008, 11:10 AM BSTYes, we all knew that, and we've noticed that you resemble him quite closely
Is there going to be another series, do we know?
I can't imagine there won't be, it's very good. Very dark though - Fist is genuinely creepy isn't he?
On Tuesday 17th June 2008 GMT at 2:47 PM GMT, Sofa Matt said:
Yes the Fist character has a real haunting quality.
While I watched the end last night, I wonderered whether Graham Duff was trying to deliver a message about the evils of drugs and dealing. Even if Moz's choice of lifestyle seems harmless enough, he ended up losing everything, his long term partner, her child, his best mate and his new love. Not to mention the difficulty he was going to have getting rid of the bodies.
Am I reading too much in what is otherwise a very dark and funny piece of writing or is there a moral message here?
On Tuesday 17th June 2008 GMT at 6:48 PM GMT, maidenpriest said:
Don't forget he also lost the big Wide Screen TV as well 
On Wednesday 18th June 2008 GMT at 12:03 AM GMT, Nil Putters said:
Hi hi,
Wow. That seemed to me like it could be the last episode ever! More-or-less everything was wrapped up. I hope not, this is a great comedy.
I thought the bee mask was in the red bag, and that's why she cried, then appeared with it. Or, a (rather sick) thought that's just occured to me, it's Cartoonhead's real face (ala Silence of the Lambs). Ugh, grossed myself out there.
Anyway, gotta go, "I'm on probation"
P.S. I didn't know Brian was Graham Duff until earlier today and I've watched all four series. Shows how much attention I pay to the credits.
@andrew stanney
The song was 'Number 1' by Goldfrapp, available on there 'Supernature' album. 2005, not 80's I'm afraid.
On Wednesday 18th June 2008 GMT at 12:14 AM GMT, Aaron said:
Welcome, Nil, welcome!
On Wednesday 18th June 2008 GMT at 12:38 AM GMT, Nil Putters said:
Thanks Aaron 
On Wednesday 18th June 2008 GMT at 12:50 AM GMT, zoe alcock said:
Can anybody tell me the name of the song and the artist who did the song that was playing on ideal in the scene when Jenny was shot during the fight with Cartoon Head, it was playing whilst Jenny was lying on the floor. I have tried to find it but to no avail. Thanks
On Wednesday 18th June 2008 GMT at 1:18 AM GMT, Nil Putters said:
Don't know this one, I did like it though. Be interested to know too.
EDIT: I've found it on tinternet, it's called 'Enter One' by Sol Seppy. Here's link where you can listen to the track. http://www.myspace.com/solseppy
On Wednesday 18th June 2008 GMT at 2:05 PM GMT, Mark said:
Quote: maidenpriest @ June 17 2008, 9:39 AM BSTWas last nights the last one in the series, I hope they have not killed Jenny off
Quote: Nil Putters @ June 17 2008, 9:03 PM BSTWow. That seemed to me like it could be the last episode ever! More-or-less everything was wrapped up. I hope not, this is a great comedy.
It was the last episode of the series, but whether it is the last episode ever remains to be seen. They've clearly left it open for more (and believe they want to do more) but the rumours are that they might not get that opportunity (as BBC3 faces a £10m budget cut), hence why many of the plotlines were resolved on Monday.
To quote the BBC3 controller: "Ideal, the Manchester-based Johnny Vegas sitcom about a hopeless drug dealer, may be at an end".
Quote: Sofa_Matt @ June 17 2008, 11:47 AM BSTYes the Fist character has a real haunting quality.
While I watched the end last night, I wonderered whether Graham Duff was trying to deliver a message about the evils of drugs and dealing. Even if Moz's choice of lifestyle seems harmless enough, he ended up losing everything, his long term partner, her child, his best mate and his new love. Not to mention the difficulty he was going to have getting rid of the bodies.
I'd not viewed it like that - but now you mention it... good point!
As for Fist, that was the one thing that really annoyed me about this series. He was never properly used and ended up being a bit of un-explained padding. Curiously whoever was playing Fist didn't want to be credited, the credits read: "Fist: As Himself".
Quote: Nil Putters @ June 17 2008, 10:18 PM BSTEDIT: I've found it on tinternet, it's called 'Enter One' by Sol Seppy. Here's link where you can listen to the track. http://www.myspace.com/solseppy
Wow, well done Nil. I appoint you as our new resident music expert!
On Thursday 19th June 2008 GMT at 12:16 AM GMT, Nil Putters said:
Thanks Mark, though I just got lucky.
The more I think about it the less likely I feel it is that we'll see another series of Ideal. Shame, there a PLENTY of other programs on BBC3 I'd prefer to get rid of ahead of Ideal. Two pints of Bollocks, Little Miss Jocelyn, the one with the 3 women (3 non blondes is it?), & Lily Allen's terrible attempt presenting.
On Thursday 19th June 2008 GMT at 12:22 AM GMT, Aaron said:
Two Pints is more than welcome to stay!
And I think you mean Tittybangbang with the three women.
On Thursday 19th June 2008 GMT at 3:11 AM GMT, Nil Putters said:
Quote: Aaron @ June 18 2008, 9:22 PM BSTTwo Pints is more than welcome to stay!
Nooooooooooooooooo
Quote: Aaron @ June 18 2008, 9:22 PM BSTAnd I think you mean Tittybangbang with the three women.
That's the one.
On Saturday 21st June 2008 GMT at 3:57 AM GMT, HiNtZ said:
Hi all, thought I would register to reply some stuff
First of all, I would be extremely disappointed if this was to be the last series. But like was mentioned, I think it might well be as the 'message' about how drugs can bring you all sorts of problems (by Jenny getting shot) is what we saw in the last episode.
Further more, I didn't like fist...... not one bit. I understand he had a connection with the christians, but it wasn't explained well why he was there specifically.
Apart from that, I've loved Ideal, I watched every single episode from start to finish in one day so i could be straight about the plots (although not very complex, it seems to be when you're stoned!).
I'd say get rid of 'Two Pints', & 'Family Guy (as they only seem to play 2 of the 10 episodes they have apparently bought, resulting in mind numbing repeats day in, day out)', and pretty much every other program that is wrongfully classed as 'comedy'.
If we don't get to see any more 'Ideal' then I would still be very interested to see what Graham Duff has to offer in the future
On Saturday 21st June 2008 GMT at 4:04 AM GMT, Gill R said:
Quote: Mark @ June 18 2008, 11:05 AM BST
As for Fist, that was the one thing that really annoyed me about this series. He was never properly used and ended up being a bit of un-explained padding. Curiously whoever was playing Fist didn't want to be credited, the credits read: "Fist: As Himself".
I'm convinced that it was Graham Duff playing Fist: right height & build, a distinctive eye (honest! ;-)) and a set of false gnashers
I'll be really, really miffed if there isn't another series.
On Saturday 21st June 2008 GMT at 4:22 AM GMT, HiNtZ said:
Anyone think what Tony the Triad said to Moz was a lead on to another series? He told Moz he would regret letting Psycho Paul & his gang use his flat to keep them hostage.
Ahhh I dunno...... I'm just trying to find some comfort lol
On Saturday 21st June 2008 GMT at 4:34 AM GMT, Aaron said:
If you look into any final episode closely enough, you'll see things like that. Tie-ups enough to answer questions in case of no new series', but just enough to lead on from if another is commissioned!
And welcome to the site.
On Saturday 21st June 2008 GMT at 4:53 AM GMT, HiNtZ said:
Quote: Aaron @ June 21 2008, 1:34 AM BSTIf you look into any final episode closely enough, you'll see things like that. Tie-ups enough to answer questions in case of no new series', but just enough to lead on from if another is commissioned!
And welcome to the site.
Thanks
I'm pretty sure in my mind that it is the last ever....... Brian kissing himself in the mirror to me means the end as he was always looking for 'the one', and ultimately found him... in himself.
Ah well..... won't be watching anything else BBC3 have to offer.
On Monday 23rd June 2008 GMT at 1:43 AM GMT, Jonny said:
Does anyone know the song that Moz plays to China in series 1, the one when they come back from the night club.
On Monday 23rd June 2008 GMT at 1:56 AM GMT, Aaron said:
No - but the first series has a soundtrack.
On Monday 23rd June 2008 GMT at 2:19 AM GMT, Martin H said:
Series 4 was great, I really think they can get at least one more series out of this, it's BBC3's only decent show.
By the way a soundtrack to all four series is out soon.
On Sunday 29th June 2008 GMT at 6:19 PM GMT, Rowan said:
Hi people,
Does anyone know where I could buy a 'Cartoon Head' mask? I do realise this is very random. Any response appreciated.
On Wednesday 12th November 2008 GMT at 2:18 AM GMT, andreas b said:
Does anyone know where in Manchester Moz's flat is located?
Edited by Aaron.
On Wednesday 12th November 2008 GMT at 3:53 AM GMT, matt insley said:
I didn't know if anyone had reported yet. But Graham Duff confirmed on his official forum that there will indeed be a series 5!
On Wednesday 12th November 2008 GMT at 3:54 AM GMT, Nil Putters said:
Quote: matt insley @ November 11 2008, 10:53 PM GMTI didn't know if anyone had reported yet. But Graham Duff confirmed on his official forum that there will indeed be a series 5!
Hurray! \
/
On Friday 9th January 2009 GMT at 8:59 PM GMT, Paulee said:
Quote: Jonny @ June 22 2008, 10:43 PM BSTDoes anyone know the song that Moz plays to China in series 1, the one when they come back from the night club.
Lovely tune that.
It's called "Everything & Anything" by Slip Stream...
Is the 4th series available on DVD anywhere?
I have 1 to 3 and love the show but haven't seen any of series 4 because I stupidly spent a year in Australia.
And the 5th series starts in April!!! Panic stations...
On Friday 9th January 2009 GMT at 9:30 PM GMT, Aaron said:
No sign of a release date at present, I'm afraid. It's usual with BBC series' that the preceding one is released when the new one airs though, so it may still arrive in the next few months.
Keep checking our merchandise page for news.
http://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/tv/ideal/buy/
On Friday 9th January 2009 GMT at 9:31 PM GMT, Paulee said:
Will do, cheers mate...
On Sunday 26th April 2009 GMT at 6:45 PM GMT, Nil Putters said:
According to Wikipedia; Series 5 will begin on BBC 3 on Monday May 11th 2009 at 10.30pm
S05E01: The Healer
S05E02: The Temptation
S05E03: The Red Bag
S05E04: The Documentary
S05E05: The Chance
S05E06: The Passports
Excellent.
On Sunday 26th April 2009 GMT at 8:49 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Does literally no one use this bloody site? http://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/tv/ideal/
http://www.comedy.co.uk/schedule/coming_up/
On Sunday 26th April 2009 GMT at 8:50 PM GMT, Nil Putters said:
You should advertise more. 
On Tuesday 16th June 2009 GMT at 1:59 PM GMT, Wackofied said:
Does anyone know the track played at the end of Series 4? I love it!
Think the lyrics go something like "I could not cry, I don't know why"
Any help greatly appreciated.
On Tuesday 16th June 2009 GMT at 2:19 PM GMT, Nil Putters said:
Try reading the thread.
Quote: Nil Putters @ June 17 2008, 10:18 PM BSTit's called 'Enter One' by Sol Seppy. Here's link where you can listen to the track. http://www.myspace.com/solseppy
Ooooh, my first ever post...
Quote: Nil Putters @ June 17 2008, 9:03 PM BSTHi hi,
Wow. That seemed to me like it could be the last episode ever! More-or-less everything was wrapped up. I hope not, this is a great comedy.
I thought the bee mask was in the red bag, and that's why she cried, then appeared with it. Or, a (rather sick) thought that's just occured to me, it's Cartoonhead's real face (ala Silence of the Lambs). Ugh, grossed myself out there.
Anyway, gotta go, "I'm on probation"
P.S. I didn't know Brian was Graham Duff until earlier today and I've watched all four series. Shows how much attention I pay to the credits.
@andrew stanney
The song was 'Number 1' by Goldfrapp, available on there 'Supernature' album. 2005, not 80's I'm afraid.
On Tuesday 16th June 2009 GMT at 5:34 PM GMT, BasedGreatdayne said:
Is There a two pints ( series 9 ) coming out anyone ?? ( BIG FAN )
On Tuesday 16th June 2009 GMT at 5:45 PM GMT, Tim Walker said:
Quote: BasedGreatdayne @ June 16 2009, 2:34 PM BSTIs There a two pints ( series 9 ) coming out anyone ?? ( BIG FAN )
Susan, it's over...
On Friday 19th June 2009 GMT at 12:05 AM GMT, Wackofied said:
Whoops.
Just realised its series 5 I'm after!
Sorry.