Info about Outnumbered....
Tuesday 28 August 2007, BBC1
Partially improvised six-part comedy about a London couple (played by Hugh Dennis and Claire Skinner) and their three children. The cast also includes Samantha Bond, Tyger Drew-Honey, Daniel Roche and Ramona Marquez. There is a script by Guy Jenkin and Andy Hamilton but the children will improvise in order to shock their parents. Made by Hat Trick.
COMEDY: Outnumbered
On: BBC 1
Date: Tuesday 28th August 2007
Time: 22:35 to 23:05
With Claire Skinner, Hugh Dennis, Tyger Drew-Honey, Daniel Roche, Ramona Marquez. Comedy series about the daily rollercoaster of life with three young children - a regal five-year-old girl with a talent for interrogation, a seven-year-old boy who could out-fib Jeffrey Archer and an 11-year-old who is gearing up for his scary first day at secondary school.
... Intriguing! Thanks! 
No one looks at the website anymore 
The above info, and more, has been in our early guide to the show for a couple of weeks now... www.sitcom.co.uk/outnumbered
This is the first I've heard of this comedy, but the read up sends shivers down my spine. Shows featuring children, or revolving around children, just aren't funny. Anybody remember the dire Ben Elton comedy starring Ardle O'Hanlon? And what about the last few Only Fools and Horses incarnations featuring Delboy's children as a replacement for the late great Uncle Albert. It just didn't work. Children aren't remotely funny, and if a sitcom needs children it should employ dwarves or very short adult actors to play them.
Lies!
Quote: Mark @ August 17, 2007, 9:12 AMNo one looks at the website anymore
What do RSS feeds do? I never understood what they are?
Quote: Leevil @ August 17, 2007, 1:03 PMWhat do RSS feeds do? I never understood what they are?
I bet the improvised part of this show is about 1%.
It's clearly a marketing trick to stop it looking like A N Other domestic sitcom and sinking without a trace.
But with Guy Jenkin, Andy Hamilton and Hugh Dennis it will be funny. But whether people will watch it is another matter.
Quote: Mark @ August 17, 2007, 1:17 PMRSS = Really Sexy Secret.
Outnumbered is, rather bizarely, going out on consecutive evenings (Tue, Wed, Thu) over the next two weeks.
For quite an in-depth preview and photos from the series do check out our expanded guide to the series.
Weird. I did see a preview though and it looked funny. "I'm not going to put a burger in bubblewrap." hehe
Quote: Mark @ August 23, 2007, 11:55 AMOutnumbered is, rather bizarely, going out on consecutive evenings (Tue, Wed, Thu) over the next two weeks.
It's not going out live as well is it? I'm sure they're in need of all the gimmicks they can get their hands on.
Quote: Britcom Barry @ August 23, 2007, 3:56 PMI notice that, thought it was a mistake at first, now it's left me wondering whether there just getting it out the way before the peak viewing seasons starts.
I think it could be really funny.
But that scheduling is bizarre.
I'll watch for Hugh Dennis, but my expectations aren't too high.
Will this basically be Kids say the darndest things: the sitcom? How old are these kids? I'm assuming there under thirteen, probably about 8?
Well the girl in the main advert looks about, what, 6 maybe? At most?
Younger they are, the more they can get away with.
That's a boy.
The food scene? Yeah, I'm sure it's a boy?
Yeah! And if he has issues when he grows up, it's going to be because of people like YOU, Aaron.
It's like American kids in movies, they always have that same long hair bowl cut thing, it's creepy!
Quote: zooo @ August 28, 2007, 12:24 AMYeah! And if he has issues when he grows up, it's going to be because of people like YOU, Aaron.
QuoteA weekly alert is set for Tuesday, 15 minutes before 22:35
Comedy series about the daily rollercoaster of life with three young children - a regal five-year-old girl with a talent for interrogation, a seven-year-old boy who could out-fib Jeffrey Archer and an 11-year-old who is gearing up for his scary first day at secondary school.

Its co-written by Andy Hamiliton which is good but they semi-improvised it with the cast who are children which is bad, very bad but as ever i'm optimistic.
Quote: Aaron @ August 28, 2007, 8:23 AMNot the fact that he looks like a girl?
You're such bullies, haha.
Why is this being shown at such odd times? It's almost as if the BBC doesn't quite know what to do with it and are shoving it out anywhere. And although the pedigree is good, it's never going to build an audience with this cockamanie sheduling. I fear another hissy fit from Andy Hamilton in a few weeks time. Wouldn't they have been better broadcasting on BBC4 first, building an audience and a buzz, then transferring to BBC1?
Quote: Jason Kindred @ August 28, 2007, 2:02 PMWouldn't they have been better broadcasting on BBC4 first, building an audience and a buzz, then transferring to BBC1?
This was on BBC Scotland did no one else watch it, I recorded it and have just watch it back, didn't do much for me. The little girl (yes it is a girl, or a boy in a skirt you decided) was by far the best of the lot. I can only remember laughing twice.
Dad to little boys
Dad: Anyway what was all that with you and Karen (5 year old girl)
Little Boy (liar): She started it; she hit me with a baseball bat.
One of the few good line.
I take it all back! It's not a boy who looks like a girl.
It's a girl who looks like a boy who looks like a girl.
Quote: Mark @ August 28, 2007, 11:20 AMThe seven year old kid does look a bit girl-like.
Quote: zooo @ August 28, 2007, 7:00 PMI take it all back! It's not a boy who looks like a girl.
It's a girl who looks like a boy who looks like a girl.
Quote: Britcom Barry @ August 28, 2007, 6:43 PMThis was on BBC Scotland did no one else watch it...
Quote: ajp29 @ August 28, 2007, 11:08 AMIts co-written by Andy Hamiliton which is good...
Well i'm watching it nowand it's not particularly good or funny.
OK - it's got the angle that it's unscripted but it's just like watching a family - voyeurism.
Nope! Not funny!!!
Well I thought it was brilliant. Can't wait for tomorrow's episode. 
What Aaron said. At least we don't have to wait a week, still seems like the show is being screwed because of the time slot though.
I loved it.
That girl(boy) was excellent, really funny!
I thought it was pretty ordinary. There were about six good lines in the whole show. Hugh Dennis is obviously a good comedy actor. Pity they didn't have a better script for him. If that script or a transcript of that show were in 'Critique' what would be the honest opinion of everyone?
Please don't tell me it was unscripted because:
1. I don't believe it.
2. It's not relevant.
I'd have to see it written down.
I'm pretty sure I'd like it though. Lots of lines made me laugh.
Andy Hamilton, of course, wrote the quite good 'Trevor's World Of Sport' - which was axed - and vowed never to work at the BBC again.
I'm sure he's delighted of the scheduling of this.
Does anyone know what this was shot on? It looks to me like HD or HDV because of the way it looked when the characters walked around quickly or something and how square the round clock ended up. I spent so much time looking at the way it was filmed to say much about the narrative. Made me feel dizzy.
It's really bugging me now.
Well we're back to "each to his own" again!
I just expect more from the terrestrial channels when you consider who's in these programs and the amount of time and effort and all the resources they have at their disposal.
The wait in the car for Ben to give in was hilarious. This is Sparta in tomorows episode sounds funny the voice I weren't expecting.
Quote: danield1000 @ August 28, 2007, 11:21 PMThe wait in the car for Ben to give in was hilarious. This is Sparta in tomorows episode sounds funny the voice I weren't expecting.
Yep i thought it was was funny especially when a car in front pulled out, so you assume they should have left as well.
I certainly didn't have that down as one of the funny bits so it just shows you!
I renounce my sense of humour
Your laughter is the relevant bit. If you enjoyed it then they did their job for you.
I can't believe it!
I sat through the entire episode stony-faced thinking, "God, this is worse than the real thing." Yet people liked it!
I thought it was unbelievably poor from two established writers. Kids simply going through things. How utterly boring. Was never impressed by Trevor's World Of Sport either. A far cry from the impressive Drop The Dead Donkey.
And there were supposed to be twists at the end of this with the email and the phone call. I couldn't have cared less about either. Who'd be interested that the father may be seeing someone when he's as bland as he is?
In good sitcoms you like to be whisked away thinking to yourself you'd like to be part of that world somehow. Even in The Simpsons, which is a dysfunctional family, the characters are so richly drawn. It couldn't have been further from my mind watching this.
I liked the mood of it. Hugh was funny, the kids were interesting and charming. Of course you're right, it's nothing like Drop the Dead Donkey - the writers have probably moved on a bit in style and content in fifteen years. (or however many it is.)
I could have done without the twist bit. And I highly doubt it'll be another woman. It'll just be some bill/mortgage bollocks I expect.
For the record I quite liked it but it wasn't as punchy as I was hoping. I'll definitely still be watching tomorrow though.
I guess whether you're a fan or not depends upon how closely you can relate to what's going on (i.e. whether you grew up or are currently running a similarly dis-organised chaos) and whether you're a fan of subtle humour. A lot of the one-liners I missed first time around, luckily I had the rewind button.
Quote: David H @ August 29, 2007, 12:07 AMAnd there were supposed to be twists at the end of this with the email and the phone call. I couldn't have cared less about either. Who'd be interested that the father may be seeing someone when he's as bland as he is?
Quote: David H @ August 29, 2007, 12:07 AMI can't believe it!
I sat through the entire episode stony-faced thinking, "God, this is worse than the real thing." Yet people liked it!
I thought it was unbelievably poor from two established writers. Kids simply going through things. How utterly boring. Was never impressed by Trevor's World Of Sport either. A far cry from the impressive Drop The Dead Donkey.
And there were supposed to be twists at the end of this with the email and the phone call. I couldn't have cared less about either. Who'd be interested that the father may be seeing someone when he's as bland as he is?
In good sitcoms you like to be whisked away thinking to yourself you'd like to be part of that world somehow. Even in The Simpsons, which is a dysfunctional family, the characters are so richly drawn. It couldn't have been further from my mind watching this.
This has definitely shown that kids perform better when they are not acting.
I bloody hate most actors under the age of 12.
I like the girl/boy, but that was about it. One of the kids asked if they are part of a story or something and Hugh replied, "That would be really boring" or something to that effect and how right he was.
"Can I keep a nit as a pet?" was very funny though.
She/he (how mean is this?) is definitely my favourite thing in it.
Quote: Mark @ August 29, 2007, 12:24 AMFor the record I quite liked it but it wasn't as punchy as I was hoping. I'll definitely still be watching tomorrow though.
I guess whether you're a fan or not depends upon how closely you can relate to what's going on (i.e. whether you grew up or are currently running a similarly dis-organised chaos) and whether you're a fan of subtle humour. A lot of the one-liners I missed first time around, luckily I had the rewind button.
MINOR SPOILER ALERT: I don't think that was supposed to be a deliberate twist. Anyway, as Zooo has guessed, he's not seeing someone else - he's actually in trouble at work for telling an un-PC joke.
I liked it. There, I said it. Sure, some of the jokes were laboured but then again I put that down to a new show having to bed down. Not sure whether or not there was a certain amount of ad-lib with regard to the children but nevertheless, I reckon it was still good value for being something that 'My Family' isn't. Funny.
It wasn't too bad, certainly better than I thought it would be when I commented earlier in the forum, but I still find the subject matter a turn off. Kids just do my head in. I can tolerate them in Malcolm in the Middle or The Wonder Years, but this wasn't as good as either of those shows...
I would have liked a few more gags but still looking foward for tonights episode. Malcolm in the middle is a great show.
Quote: Mark @ August 29, 2007, 12:24 AMhe's actually in trouble at work for telling an un-PC joke.
I have to say, I don't get the hating kids in comedy, let alone TV in general. As long as there's funny lines/scenes/etc, then I'm happy.
And I'll just echo Mark in saying that I don't think that that was meant to be a twist. I didn't believe that it was meant to seriously suggest that he was having an affair. More that he was acting as if he was, but quite clearly wasn't.
OK, let's get a form of perspective here. Two different comedies but how does 'Outnumbered' stand up against 'Benidorm' as a first series?
Well I only watched 'Outnumbered' and I still think 'Benidorm' was better.

Outnumbered outnumbers Benidorm, by far.
Quote: Leevil @ August 29, 2007, 11:13 AMWas it a Mac joke?
f**k off!

I liked it. I thought it was funny and very natural which came with the improv. The bit when the girl and the mom were talking about what pets they wanted I thought was funny and the kids could actually act which is amazing. Someone said it earlier (can't remember who) but when kids aren't acting and just saying stuff naturally it works a whole lot better. I'm looking forwards to tonights
Didn't it feel like they were being fed the lines? Just given a little nudge sometimes?
Well - it looks like we're split on this one.
I thought it was awful. There's much better humour on TV - IT Crowd, Gavin & Stacey, The Visit.
It was like Royle Family or The Office but without any humour
I'll give it another go tonight. I think I might enjoy it better now I know what to expect. I'm hoping when the curly kid asks for his fiver again that Dad will give the brat a damn good smack. That would be great TV!
Quote: David Chapman @ August 29, 2007, 7:51 PMIt was like The Office but without any humour.
Quote: Aaron @ August 29, 2007, 8:46 PMSo uhhh... The Office then?
There's a Gervais fixation on this site that seems to permeate every thread...
And weirdly, it's not even coming from me.
The haters love him talking about him more than I do.
Quote: zooo @ August 29, 2007, 8:51 PMAnd weirdly, it's not even coming from me.
The haters love him talking about him more than I do.
Sometimes, people just make it far too easy to take a dig.
In all seriousness though, fair enough. I personally can't really see how people can't see the humour there, but y'know, each to their own.
It's about as funny as The Office!
Quote: David H @ August 29, 2007, 12:07 AMI can't believe it!
I sat through the entire episode stony-faced thinking, "God, this is worse than the real thing." Yet people liked it!
I thought it was unbelievably poor from two established writers. Kids simply going through things. How utterly boring. Was never impressed by Trevor's World Of Sport either. A far cry from the impressive Drop The Dead Donkey.
And there were supposed to be twists at the end of this with the email and the phone call. I couldn't have cared less about either. Who'd be interested that the father may be seeing someone when he's as bland as he is?
In good sitcoms you like to be whisked away thinking to yourself you'd like to be part of that world somehow. Even in The Simpsons, which is a dysfunctional family, the characters are so richly drawn. It couldn't have been further from my mind watching this.
I to be honest I didn't think there was much improv going on. Different strokes for different folks, I hate Bottom I feel there can't be anything worse.
It was alot better than the first episode and I enjoyed the first one too. No wait though, but it will be over faster. Andy Hamilton should be pissed off.
That was brilliant. Had me laughing all the way through. Oh, and that girl who plays Karen is adorable. I hope she's been paid very well for this.
Taped it, so it's better then?
It seemed very middle class, another thing that put me off yesterday. Not that I'm working class, you have to work to earn that honour.
Yeah, I thought it was a bit better too actually.
Why does middle class annoy you?
Quote: Aaron @ August 29, 2007, 11:16 PMThat was brilliant. Had me laughing all the way through. Oh, and that girl who plays Karen is adorable. I hope she's been paid very well for this.
I'm not quite sure. Bless! 
Quote: Aaron @ August 29, 2007, 11:22 PMWhy does middle class annoy you?

Fair enough I guess. Brings up a very interesting line of discussion though.
But on the other hand, they're a lot of middle-upper class comedies I do like, The Good Life, Keeping Up Appearances, Arrested Development (kinda counts
)
Do you like Fawlty Towers or Blackadder? I don't like the good life, keeping up appearences is funny because of her desire to be middle class.
Yes, yes, Fawlty Towers, Blackadder I love.
Maybe it's just southerners?
I live in 'ole, tis gud enuff for thee.
lol the great north south divide I still don't know why it's there.
Quote: danield1000 @ August 29, 2007, 11:36 PMlol the great north south divide I still don't know why it's there.
I love her and I want to adopt her. And her nit.

She is wonderful, isn't she? 
Quote: Leevil @ August 29, 2007, 11:17 PMIt seemed very middle class, another thing that put me off yesterday. Not that I'm working class

That's one of my favourite lines, ever.
Me too. But now I have to credit Woody with it instead of Larry.
I spelled it 'becasue' again. Dammit.
Quote: zooo @ August 29, 2007, 11:59 PMMaybe you're a self hating middle-classer!
Oh! You know that great Curb line 'I hate myself but not becasue I'm a Jew'? I realised the other day it's actually from an old Woody Allen film.
I wonder if Larry used it as an homage, or actually thought he came up with it himself?
Crikey.
I just watched the film. Easier.
Prob a homage.
Quote: Leevil @ August 30, 2007, 12:06 AMThat's one of my favourite lines, ever.
Well yeah!
It's part of a conversation, like.
He doesn't just say it to himself during his cornflakes.
Duh. 
He's humming/whistling the tune of a famous Nazi composer or something. And another "Jew" recognizes it and starts having a go at Larry,
Donald: You know what you are? You're a self-loathing Jew.
Larry David: Hey, I may loathe myself, but it has nothing to do with the fact that I'm Jewish.
Heh, alright, fair enough.
There's a whole sequence around that self-hating-Jew thing in the "banned" Family Guy episode.
Thats a wicked line but still that means they cant drive ford or vw
Or wear a black shirt?
Can't go germany can't call there kids Sam Stone because initials SS can't well can't do alot. Screw it, it's only there for a laugh calm lol. Black shirt refrence has gone over my head. Intresting point actually can we enjoy good things from bad people. Music stylings from michael jackson, Seinfeld (the whole kramer thing), The thick of it. I can say I enjoy early jackson things love a bit of the jackson 5, seinfeld is wicked I don't care what anyone says and The thick of it I have only just watched I thought it was good.
In theory I think you should be able to separate the man from the art, but it doesn't always work like that.
I never really liked Kramer anyway though, so there's no conflict for me there.
Quote: zooo @ August 30, 2007, 12:38 AMI never really liked Kramer anyway though, so there's no conflict for me there.
Yes he has his moments.
But he could slip right out of the cast list and I'd still love Seinfeld just as much.
However if Jerry, Elaine or George had left it would have been a ctcatstrophe.
F**k it, I'll just leave the typo. That's how bad it would have been!
I love Jerry, George and Elaine, I could listen to there crap for hours. Seinfeld isn't my funniest show by miles, I just love the characters.
Quote: zooo @ August 30, 2007, 12:38 AMIn theory I think you should be able to separate the man from the art, but it doesn't always work like that.
Anyway, back to the thread.
I didn't bother watching last night's episode as no doubt I would have been bored stiff again. The show reminds me of Blessed. You know, the one where Ben Elton had kids and just had to write about what it was like being a parent and all the hilarious things that happen, like needing a nappy late on at night
Or you've just bought a new shirt and the baby is sick over it. What are the chances!
"That's great, Ben. But haven't you forgotton something.......jokes?"
I didn't think it was too bad. My expectations where pretty low, but it broke right through them. Not spectacular, but not bad. I don't see how it could have been improvised though, the kids seem to be regurgitating things they were told to say, and they did it in that annoying child-like way as if they were 5-year olds ...
Quote: ContainsNuts @ August 29, 2007, 9:22 PMit was like watching the real thing which is quite stressful.
Quote: Walker @ August 30, 2007, 11:31 AMand they did it in that annoying child-like way as if they were 5-year olds

I watched last nights one just now and it hasn't changed my mind. I get the attempted subtle jokes but they aren't very funny. They seem funnier because the are so far a few between or being said by a kid.
Not my cup of tea and I don't think I'll watch anymore. The lines/jokes people have mentioned here - are they really that funny?
I find supernanny more amusing and its almost the same thing, but not scripted at all.
I liked tonights episode as well. Hugh Dennis played his character very well.
It was alright tonight, some good lines, but it's very stressful to watch, those kids are a little too realistically bratty, it gives me a headache.
Ben's the only stressful one. I could probably do without him. (Not his fault or acting ability.)
That storyline with the oldest boy's bruises and the little sister asking about them looks like it might be quite good. And doesn't seem out of place, like I thought a more serious storyline would feel.
Didn't think tonight's was quite as good as the previous two, but then they were removed from the house setting, which I quite like (I want to live there). Still lots of laugh out loud moments though, and Ramona is just freaking brilliant. I want one. 
"When your dead are foxes going to dig up your body like they did to my hamster."
Sorry, but give the little girl an Oscar or a packet of toblerone. Anyway, i enjoyed tonight's but it was not as good as yesterday, some nice character development though.
Aha, just found this quote from Andy Hamilton.
QuoteWhen the BBC saw the pilot, they thought it would sit quite happily in the bedtime slot and decided to run it more as an event across three consecutive nights on two consecutive weeks - so that is what they commissioned. It's a good slot to launch new comedy because it's far away from the feeding frenzy of the mainstream slots.

Quote: hotzappa11 @ August 30, 2007, 11:22 PM"When your dead are foxes going to dig up your body like they did to my hamster."
Sorry, but give the little girl an Oscar or a packet of toblerone.
Hi all. *waves*
I guessed that Ben was seven or eight because he's in the "I'm invulnerable"/"this weapon destroys the world" mode that I remember being in at that age.
I happen to like it, as it appears to be fairly normal life, rather than ridiculously staged encounters in a family, a la My Family, which is fun, but can get to be too much.
For the record, my favourite characters are Jake and Karen.
Hello you.
I just read the cast list.
Tyger Drew Honey!
Ace.
I wish *I* had a cool name.
Well, it might sound cool,but it must get the most unbelievable teasing. I share my surname with one of our previous Prime Ministers and the amount of "fun" that people had with that at school, even years later, was huge.
Good point. Things like this only become cool well above school age.
But, he'd always be able to do that "Tyger Honey?", "Yes darling?" thing with the teachers.
That makes it worthwhile in my view.
*rofl*
That would be kind of eerie though. The 11-year-old boy in his school uniform, apparently chatting up the teacher...
Hello! 
Also, I just noticed that too, zooo. (Ooh, I does rhymez!) Bloody odd name, I must say.
Hi Aaron (and Zooo, for that matter).
I'm guessing that either his parents are new age or it's a stage name. It could also be from the scary names department, such as Frank Zappa's infamously named daughter, Moon Unit.
I reckon his parents planned an actor and sent him to stage school at age three.
Well, on the topic of ridiculous names, Graham Norton's latest show had a lady in her 30s with 44 first names. (That's not a typo.) I think they were actually surnames, as she was apparently named after half a tonne of famous boxers.
What was even more daft was that her brother's full name was identical except for a different first "first name".
Quote: Arakhor @ August 30, 2007, 11:55 PMHi Aaron (and Zooo, for that matter).
I'm guessing that either his parents are new age or it's a stage name. It could also be from the scary names department, such as Frank Zappa's infamously named daughter, Moon Unit.
Dwezel!
The biggest laugh for me in last night's episode is when Hugh Dennis' daughter said to David Ryall,
"What's it like being old? Is it nice?"
"Beats being dead!"
I wonder if that was improvised. How do you know which bits are improv are which isn't?
And I enjoyed Hugh Dennis' performance.
most people seem to like outnumbered but i thought it was so bad it was unwatchable. nothing funny happened. i tried to watch saxondale too last night but the same thing - there were no laughs. i tried the visit but that was the same. it wasn't funny. only my opinions.
last week's IT crowd was the first thing i've properly laughed at in a long time. i am hoping for more of the same tonight.
Quote: johnny roulette @ August 31, 2007, 12:04 PMmost people seem to like outnumbered but i thought it was so bad it was unwatchable. nothing funny happened. i tried to watch saxondale too last night but the same thing - there were no laughs. i tried the visit but that was the same. it wasn't funny. only my opinions.
last week's IT crowd was the first thing i've properly laughed at in a long time. i am hoping for more of the same tonight.
I wonder if any of these three kids will have future acting careers? It'd be surreal if in 20 years time the little girl was starting a stand up tour just as the kid with curly hair is the lead actor of a new drama film, appears on Friday Night With Frankie Boyle (someone has to replace Ross eventually) and they show the clip of them both in Outnumbered.
Love the show, but I have to confess that I can't get my head around when it's actually on.
I don't know how many episodes there have been, but I've watched three and found them absolutely spellbinding. The kids are naturals... at being kids. Can't wait for tonight's episode.
Really enjoyed this, but why the odd three episodes a week thing?
Quote: Rustle T Davis @ September 3, 2007, 8:27 PMLove the show, but I have to confess that I can't get my head around when it's actually on.
I don't know how many episodes there have been, but I've watched three and found them absolutely spellbinding. The kids are naturals... at being kids. Can't wait for tonight's episode.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ September 3, 2007, 8:33 PMReally enjoyed this, but why the odd three episodes a week thing?
Loved it tonight. I sort of want to buy the dvd already.
Yeah, I'm warming to it. I think if it gets a second series, they'll have the chance to iron it out a bit more and have things run a lot smoother.
On another note, I was reminded of another sitcom tonight, which I'm sure was called 'The Savages' with Marcus Brigstocke, which I remember really liking. Anyway, my point is, I'm sure they "semi-improvised" with the kids in that, can anyone else remember?
Not sure if I remember it...
I liked that thing with Dr Who, I mean Peter Davison, as a middle class dad last year who had troublesome kids too.
What the hell was that...?
I think I know what you mean? Something like, 'My midlife crises'?
EDIT: "The Complete Guide to Parenting" - Thanks to imdb.com
http://www.sitcom.co.uk/complete_parenting/
Quote: chipolata @ August 17, 2007, 9:42 AMThis is the first I've heard of this comedy, but the read up sends shivers down my spine. Shows featuring children, or revolving around children, just aren't funny. Anybody remember the dire Ben Elton comedy starring Ardle O'Hanlon? And what about the last few Only Fools and Horses incarnations featuring Delboy's children as a replacement for the late great Uncle Albert. It just didn't work. Children aren't remotely funny, and if a sitcom needs children it should employ dwarves or very short adult actors to play them.
Quote: Leevil @ September 4, 2007, 12:17 AMI think I know what you mean? Something like, 'My midlife crises'?
EDIT: "The Complete Guide to Parenting" - Thanks to imdb.com
http://www.sitcom.co.uk/complete_parenting/
I must say, I don't actually mind the three episodes a week. I quite like it in fact. Enjoyed last night's show again, and looking forward to the rest. Hope they make another series.
It should be Mon, Wed and Fri, would be nicer.
I think this is a fantastic show - the improv thing really works well and the two younger children are amazing.
Quote: Leevil @ September 4, 2007, 12:08 AMYeah, I'm warming to it. I think if it gets a second series, they'll have the chance to iron it out a bit more and have things run a lot smoother.
Quote: Leevil @ September 4, 2007, 12:08 AMOn another note, I was reminded of another sitcom tonight, which I'm sure was called 'The Savages' with Marcus Brigstocke, which I remember really liking. Anyway, my point is, I'm sure they "semi-improvised" with the kids in that, can anyone else remember?
Quote: zooo @ September 4, 2007, 12:10 AMI liked that thing with Dr Who, I mean Peter Davison, as a middle class dad last year who had troublesome kids too.
What the hell was that...?
Quote: Dave John @ September 4, 2007, 4:56 PMI think this is a fantastic show - the improv thing really works well and the two younger children are amazing.
Quote: Aaron @ September 4, 2007, 6:56 PM
I gave it a special award at the first annual BSG awards though!
Quote: Aaron @ September 4, 2007, 6:56 PMNo. The whole point is that it's not "smooth" because life isn't. IMO, it is absolutely perfect for what it's meant to be.
Well I've not really thought about the story quite like that, but certainly regarding the kids I think they're perfect. Yes, they could do more with them, but only in that more episodes = more time, and not that they're under-developed or anything now.
Damn, tonight's show clashes with Skins ... grrrr.
Quote: zooo @ September 4, 2007, 7:08 PMAre the results of that hanging around anywhere?
I've forgotten them.
Ramona is just absolutely wonderful.
She hugged Aunt Angela!
*sniffle*
I liked the dinner scene, that WAS improvised and very well.
Are you eating or knitting?

Aidan and I were writing and stuff (arguing-lol) at his dining table whilst this was on so we missed it.
Didn't even know it existed till yesterday!
Any repeat showings?
Apparently it's already been on BBC One Scotland, so keep your eyes open and it might be on elsewhere.
"... But he doesn't have red hair!"
"I know. His head's on fire."

This is truly the best programme on TV. The kids are magic and parents are so believable - not idots, but not perfect at parenting either.
Hmmm ... I like you. Welcome! 
Suuuuurely it'll be repeated again soon.
I'm sure they'll know lots of people only caught on to it half way through and missed the first ones.
Maybe they'll bring out a DVD really quick?
With a commentary by Ramona?
yes please.
I'll second, third, and fourth that idea!
Really sad to see the end of it tonight. Absolutely brilliant last episode (even including the IT-hating boss from The IT Crowd), and certainly didn't disappoint on the Ramona front. She really is amazing! 
Oh that's who he was!
He was quite saucy.
I want the dvd immediately.
Well I could do you a DVD, but it'd be extras-free!
"Am I made out of atoms?"
"Yes."
"Are shadows made out of atoms?"
Hugh Dennis says something sciencey and looks puzzled.
"Are atoms made out of atoms?"
I'd do ANYTHING for a dvd!
Well, not anything.
But lots!
I really love this too. It is so funny but also touching and at times makes me so glad my children are older. These ones are brilliantly drawn, exaggerated, but true to life at the same time. Such bright children are exhausting and the relentness of parenting comes through not only in the dialogue but in the whole way of filming (as touched on). The agonies of how to best parent are really well illustrated.
Could I borrow Karen for a week?
Quote: puffinpol @ September 5, 2007, 11:35 PMCould I borrow Karen for a week?
I have enjoyed the run of outnumbered,very good comedy.Although I think it is on at a stupid time to be honest.I record it for my 8 year old daughter she loves it! I can't see any reason why it has not been put on at earlier time like 8 or 8.30 in evening.I can't see that it can offend anybody,I mean Jekyll was on at 9.30 for gods sake!
I think it's just aimed at parents, not that it has an adult theme or anything.
As we've seen from the comments, it seems to be the parent members of the board who have, generally, appreciated it more.
Parents can definitely relate to it. In my family (3 male, 3 female) females LOVE it (aged 10, 15 and 40something). My girls love the kids - whether they're being naughty or coming up with those wonderful questions.
Yes my daughter really engages with the kids when they are on.I can engage with the dad when I try to find the smallest book to read at my kids bedtime so that I can get downstairs to watch the telly!My daughter is only happy for me to read the bedtime story instead of her mum because I put stupid voices on,just like what happened in outnumbered the other night,so I can definitely relate to it.
It's great when writers pick up on something so commonplace and ordinary - but you know exactly what they mean. I loved all the negotiations with the children - and the logic of their arguments. If Father Christmas can come down the chimney why can't a burglar...
We've had lots of questions in our inbox this morning, way more than normal, about whether there is going to be a DVD so the demand is definitely there - hopefully someone will have the sense to release it soon and commission another series!
Refer them to me! 
This thread is the most information I can find on this show on the web.
There seems to be nothing on the BBC and just a small WIKI page.
I understand that the story makes the program suited to be shown on consecutive nights, but does anyone know why this show has had such minimal publicity and been given such an average slot.
It just seems such a good show to be buried, or is that just me?
Welcome mediaboi, I'd rather it find its on way rather then through tons of publicity, if it really is good then it will grow. Although like so many other good shows, that probably won't happen.
Quote: mediaboi @ September 6, 2007, 1:46 PMThis thread is the most information I can find on this show on the web.
Quote: mediaboi @ September 6, 2007, 1:46 PMI understand that the story makes the program suited to be shown on consecutive nights, but does anyone know why this show has had such minimal publicity and been given such an average slot.
Having just read the thread I'll now echo the sentiments of those that stuck with this until the end: it was wonderful. So often I find myself sitting in front of the latest BBC1 pre-watershed family sitcom, shaking my head, wondering if this is all there is - if this is really the best we can currently do with one of sitcom's greatest formats.
And then Outnumbered cropped up, unannounced, and in a slot that couldn't be more apt: 10:35 on a weekday. No grand introduction or pretense of a prime-time billing - the kind of comedy you need to want to watch, to watch.
And on doing so, almost immediately, the handheld camera, absence of a laughter track and grounded, natural dialogue convinced me that there was no formula in play here, no desperation for jokey dialogue, which is so often the downfall of its ailing peers. It is a family sitcom based on a simple principle. That real family life is funny.
No less innovative than the above premise was the choice to ascribe centre stage and freedom to improvise to the youngest children, whose imagination, when met with the logic of the awkward, often despairing parents, became fodder for some of the sitcom's best scenes.
Well said Mav. And welcome to the board! 
Thank-you - said a bit more in the end, accidentally hit post reply too early
Welcome Mav, good post.
Quote: Mav42 @ September 13, 2007, 4:36 PMHaving just read the thread I'll now echo the sentiments of those that stuck with this until the end: it was wonderful.
Let's hope they've 'axed' those AWFUL kids...
Quote: Frankie Rage @ October 25, 2007, 5:00 PMLet's hope they've 'axed' those AWFUL kids...
Quote: Mark @ October 25, 2007, 4:19 PMGood news: the BBC have re-commissioned Outnumbered so we will be getting another series next year.
Quote: hotzappa11 @ October 25, 2007, 5:09 PM*tuts* You can't axe the little girl.
Quote: zooo @ October 25, 2007, 6:05 PMYayyyyyyyyyy!

Quote: Frankie Rage @ October 25, 2007, 7:49 PMsack! fire! I'm not picky..
|I'm gutted that I missed the first series. I love Hugh Dennis. If anyone recorded it, could you drop me a message if you can do me a copy.
Hugh Dennis was good but the rest of the cast were absoloutely dire...
Hattie xxx
Aaron:
The only time Frankie is wrong is when he thinks he's wrong...
I'm like a Tory politician... just never wrong...
The second series of Outnumbered is currently being filmed.
Chortle story
Woo hoo! 
Splendid news. It was basically my life.
Quote: Aaron @ April 18 2008, 12:58 PM BSTWoo hoo!
That's good. I didn't like it's original time slot. Somewhat of a blind spot for me on the tv guide.
Quote: Ian Wolf @ April 18 2008, 1:02 PM BSTOne major change to the series however. It's now on BBC Two.
Yay!!!
Can't wait.
zooo, are we gonna still club together and buy us a Ramona Marquez?
Yes!
And then she can talk about having a nit for a pet aaaall day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyq6XTkGPPI
Weally!
DVD coming soon - and about time too.

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Thanks for that - have added it to our merchandise database! 
And I guess that means we have a broadcast date for series 2: end of October.
Oh, and of course welcome to the site! 
Quote: "or... Dorking!" @ August 5 2008, 12:26 AM BST
David, don't tease the new members. They don't necessarily know your painful pun nature.
Oh - Maybe I scared him/her off.
Well this DVD and the new series are definitely worth knowing about - so one can AVOID them at all costs! Awful rubbish, I thought - especially the kids!
That, Frankie, is why you're an idiot. 
It was hilariously funny. Quite possibly the best comedy on British TV throughout the whole of 2007.
Especially the kids.
Quote: Aaron @ August 5 2008, 1:03 AM BSTThat, Frankie, is why you're an idiot.
It was hilariously funny. Quite possibly the best comedy on British TV throughout the whole of 2007.
Especially the kids.

You are a wazzok Frankie.
Wow. I have not used that word since school. And this is what it took!
I saw two episodes of 'Outnumbered' and thought it was puerile rubbish - twee and predictable - I guess that's probably why you couch potatoes liked it!
Yes, I only like things I find twee.
Like um... doilies and flower pressing.
And there is no way you could have predicted anything that the little girl said. Sorry!
Now flower pressing, I could get into that!
Like I say, I just saw the first two episodes, did not find it to my taste and I particularly didn't like the kids.
I didn't like what any of the kids had to say in those episodes I saw.
Quote: Frankie Rage @ August 5 2008, 1:13 AM BSTNow flower pressing, I could get into that!
Aaron is right about you!
Wassat.
What about?!
Wazzo(c?)k. Memories!
Dum de dum de dah..
Mostly nice things I believe!
You wazzock.
Yes, it does have a c.
*writes it down*
Sticks and stones Zooo.
Well I hope those poor kids are thinking that after your harsh, harsh words 

Awful brats! Especially the boy with the curly hair! Six of the best required there!
What I disliked most about the show was the sheer West London middle-classness of it! So-o-o-o predictable..
He was the least good, but still ace. In my opinion!
I bet you just hate all kids. 
What's wrong with the middle classes?? They have every right to be sitcommed! 
Although to be fair, I sometimes think if I have to sit through another flipping dull gritty comedy about a working class family of skanks like Shameless I'll top myself.
Not at all. I used to be one! (a kid) arf! arf!
It was the smug middle-classness of it all that grated most.
I like kids. But I like kids to be kids - and not treated like little adults. I don't think having kids in sitcoms works. They aren't funny for the right reasons. Teenagers maybe, but not kids.
What's wrong with the middle classes?
Gee.. just about everything. The smugness and the 'I'm alright Jack-ness' - pension sorted - old clothes to the charity shop - etc.
Having said that, the middle classes are not as bad as benefit scrounging chavs!
Are you jealous? 
They can't help being smug, innit.
The youngest girl was just awesome. Totally just being a kid, not being treated as an adult at all. More so than in any other TV show, as she made up most of her lines herself on the spot.
I'm not jealous of the middle classes, no. I had all that stuff and was surrounded by them for yonks. No they can't help being smug, but I didn't like their smugness and still don't.
Re 'Outnumbered', I can't remember the dialogue. I'll take your word for it, that it was well done, but I don't recall anything but cringing at it! I did make an effort with that show. But it wasn't for me. Maybe when I grow up I'll like it ... like cabbage?
Quote: zooo @ August 5 2008, 1:30 AM BSTAlthough to be fair, I sometimes think if I have to sit through another flipping dull gritty comedy about a working class family of skanks like Shameless I'll top myself.

Quote: Frankie Rage @ August 5 2008, 1:36 AM BSTWhat's wrong with the middle classes?
Gee.. just about everything. The smugness and the 'I'm alright Jack-ness' - pension sorted - old clothes to the charity shop - etc.
The middle-classes don't take their old clothes to charity shops to help, silly! Whatever gave you that idea?
Stick it in whatever thread you like, old bean.
Sorry, that's rude. What I meant was, please redirect my posts to another thread if you wish, but I'm all done here!!!
Cheers, mate! Frankie xxx
P.S. Of all the classes, I think I prefer the upper classes (as long as they have gainful employment!!!) Fx
Quote: David Chapman @ August 5 2008, 12:33 AM BSTAre you from Dorking or is that what you do?
Ah, the last episode was probably the weakest of the lot I think.
Well, that's good to know. If the other episodes are better than the last, I think the DVD will be worth every penny.
Sorry about my rant before but the schedules are filled with so much dross and when anything decent comes along the BBC seems to shelve it. I exclude the documentaries which are usually excellent and those in HD, spectacular.
I didn't expect to like this but did. Short but accurate.
I'm very pleased to spot in the schedules that the first series of Outnumbered is getting a repeat soon (I guess to get people geared up for the finished, but not yet scheduled series two).
For those interested, this repeat run starts on Saturday 23rd on BBC4 (then continues on Sunday, Monday...)
Woo hoo! 
Excellent!
Still doing it over one week, then.
At least it gets it over with!
Quote: zooo @ August 15 2008, 6:04 PM BSTExcellent!
Still doing it over one week, then.
Quote: Frankie Rage @ August 15 2008, 9:03 PM BSTAt least it gets it over with!
you know me so we-e-e-lll!
Quote: hotzappa11 @ August 15 2008, 9:07 PM BSTWasn't it 3 episodes over 2 weeks? That's what I remember.
I'm now going to use this opportunity to post this link because it still find it funny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyq6XTkGPPI

Ooooo. That's so cute!
I did that, too, when I was little. I was heading for Tyrol, though. Had it all planned out.
"... Dorking." lol
In an interview with Chortle, Andy Hamilton talks about the new series of Outnumbered. He says: "We've made it and handed it in to BBC One and it will be going out at 9pm on Saturdays from mid-November."
Which is good news.... so not only a better time slot (although Saturday is still a bit weird), but also they won't be repeating the bad idea of putting episodes out on subsequent nights.
According to that article, it seems like it was partly Hamilton's idea for the show to be broadcast in the way it first was, because that was how "Bedtime" was broadcast and it also avoided the prime time schedules.
Quote: Mark @ September 19 2008, 10:38 AM BSTbut also they won't be repeating the bad idea of putting episodes out on subsequent nights.
So did I.
I liked it for me, I didn't think it was a great idea for the show.
I just don't know if I can wait until November. I neeeeeed it now!

I can wait.

You're always there, piping up!
Quite comforting really.
Quote: zooo @ September 19 2008, 5:39 PM BST
You're always there, piping up!
Quite comforting really.
glad to be of service!
Oh crikey.
Quote: zooo @ September 19 2008, 10:03 PM BSTOh crikey.
What a coincidence, that's what I'm wearing!
Imagine having a dad like me!
Very embarassing!
My poor boys.. (and wife..)
I did mean to watch the rerun, as I remember it being pretty good. Things like keeping a nit as a pet (and then another nit, so it doesn't get lonely) and "but I'm your ONLY niece" showed real wit, and the unfortunate situations the dad found himself in at work ("it's just bad luck that she actually WAS pregnant") were great stuff. Still not sure what the perfect timeslot for it would be, and I don't know if moving it to BBC2 is a merely cautious approval, but I really liked it. And I don't have kids.
It's a great advert for British comedy this show. Glad you enjoy it.
Andy Hamilton and Guy Jenkin are both veteran comedy writers. Writing as a duo for TV they are probably best-known otherwise for writing the semi-topical newsroom sitcom Drop The Dead Donkey. Andy has written and performed a fair bit of great stuff for radio as well, plus he usually turns up every year on Have I Got News For You. A very funny man.
As far as I know there will be a series three, but I've yet to hear word of any definite commission (cue Aaron to correct me).
I finally acquired this and have started watching it. I absolutely love it. It reminds me a lot what can happen with my own kids from time to time.
Tim: Yes. http://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/tv/outnumbered/

Actually, I just noticed the note at the bottom of the page that a third series is still uncertain. But I'm 99% sure that there will be.

It would be an absolute travesty if there weren't, frankly.
With the other commissions I've had word of, I can't believe that there won't be one. 