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On Friday 3rd November 2006 GMT at 1:13 AM GMT, Craig said:


In my book this is the best sitcom of all-time.It had it all:- superb cast,brilliant scripts and writers,memorable moments,great chemistry between the characters,one-liners and double entendres.

Its like the Carry On films in that it doesn't matter how many times I watch them they still are hilarious.Great that the Complete Boxset will finally be brought out on the 13th of November.I can hardly wait.




On Friday 3rd November 2006 GMT at 3:22 PM GMT, Wheeler said:


Each to their own, I suppose, but in my book this is one of the worst British sitcoms of all time. It was corny, naff and horribly sexist at the time and unsurprisingly has dated badly. Reg Varney and his equally ugly mate Stan cop off with a load of busty babes. Stan has a sandwich. Reg Varney gets in trouble with Blakey. Stan has a sandwich. Olive's husband berates her for being ugly despite the fact that he is no oil painting. Reg Varney gets off with some more birds. Stan has his tea. The end.




On Friday 3rd November 2006 GMT at 7:52 PM GMT, Craig said:


Well if you are politically correct its not for you.Frankly all this PC we get killed REAL comedy and opened the door to garbage like Little Britain,My Family etc etc.

By the way if it was soooo sexist then I am sure it would have sunk before it started as the women would not have been found to play the parts.




On Friday 3rd November 2006 GMT at 8:45 PM GMT, Wheeler said:


Political correctness paving the way for Little Britain, a show which routinely pokes fun at working class women, black people, gays, foreigners etc.

As for your comment that if it was so sexist they wouldn't have found actresses to play the parts - that's even sillier than your point about political correctness killing 'real' comedy.




On Friday 3rd November 2006 GMT at 9:18 PM GMT, Craig said:


No perhaps I should have explained clearer.

On The Buses much like another great comedy institution (Carry On films)were built around innuendo and double entendres hinting at rudeness or sex etc.It leaves a lot up to the viewers own interpretation without over-stepping the mark.

Little Britain over-steps that mark and comes right out with rude comments and scenes etc.Sort of akin to schoolboy humour relying on crudeness or laughing at the afflicted to get its laughs....in other words very cheap.




On Friday 3rd November 2006 GMT at 9:43 PM GMT, Wheeler said:


Well, we'll have to agree to disagree about OTB, but good point about LB - it is very cheap, although I thought the first series was OK and then it went downhill to the point where the third series was unwatchable.




On Friday 3rd November 2006 GMT at 9:44 PM GMT, Danny said:


On The Buses is the second best sitcom of all time, number one being Rab C of course.




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 1:05 AM GMT, Aaron said:


Quote: Wheeler @ November 3, 2006, 4:43 PM

...but good point about LB - it is very cheap, although I thought the first series was OK and then it went downhill to the point where the third series was unwatchable.


Agreed. I've said it before, and I'll say it again; series one was gold. Series 2 was pretty good. Series 3 was utterly, UTTERLY painful.

Anyway, back on topic. I certainly understand what Craig means about PC and comedy and so on, and for what it's worth, I mostly agree. Either way, I've not really seen any On The Buses to be able to comment particularly, but I do have some somewhere. Will have to find what I've got and have a watch. :)
(I've seen one of the movies, and it struck me as entertaining, but not hilarious.)




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 1:13 AM GMT, Craig said:


Well Aaron (in my opinion) the TV series was better than the films.The first series was more of a moulding of the characters but still worth a watch even without Doris Hare playing the mother.

The 2nd series was short but very sweet but the 3rd series is my personal favourite.In reply to the earlier post that it has dated badly I disagree.I run an On The Buses Forum with many youngsters on it that weren't born when On The Buses was on our screens but they love it and would take it anytime over modern day comedy.




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 3:29 AM GMT, Karl said:


[quote name=In reply to the earlier post that it has dated badly I disagree.I run an On The Buses Forum with many youngsters on it that weren't born when On The Buses was on our screens but they love it and would take it anytime over modern day comedy.
[/quote]

That doesn't prove that it hasn't dated. All that proves is that some people have a shit taste in comedy just as they did in the '70s.




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 3:57 PM GMT, Thomps said:


Your OTB forum doesn't work. A shame as I'm dying to hear the thoughts of all these young people who apparently love the show and prefer it to modern comedy.




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 8:16 PM GMT, Craig said:


Bad taste in comedy eh?How come it was around at the time renowned as the golden era of comedy?Its called a golden era for a reason you know because if the depth in quality of British sitcoms.

What is there nowadays?Rubbish,rubbish and yet more rubbish.

Thomps74 try http://onthebusesforum.myfastforum.org




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 8:20 PM GMT, Wheeler said:


Golden era of comedy, eh? Yeah, there were some classics, but a lot of rubbish as well. Time to take off the rose tinted specs.




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 8:23 PM GMT, Craig said:


Nowadays there is a load of rubbish fullstop.

Perhaps you take your similarly tinted specs off about new age comedy.




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 8:25 PM GMT, Wheeler said:


I should have known better than to argue with an OTB geek.




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 8:27 PM GMT, Aaron said:


Guys, come on, keep it pleasant! There was some absolutely brilliant shows "back in the day", just as there are some now, and similarly on the opposite end of the scale - and it's all relative to each person anyway. I would consider The Office to be on par with what Wheeler evidently thinks of On The Buses, but doesn't mean I'm "right", nor does it mean I'm "wrong". Comedy is individual!




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 8:35 PM GMT, Craig said:


Fair point Aaron.Each to their own.Nowadays though I find two comedys watchable.

Still Game is the best on the box at the mo (IMHO) and The Green Green Grass Of Home is decent and I think John Challis is a rare breed nowadays.




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 9:00 PM GMT, Wheeler said:


Quote: Aaron @ November 5, 2006, 3:27 PM

Guys, come on, keep it pleasant! There was some absolutely brilliant shows "back in the day", just as there are some now, and similarly on the opposite end of the scale - and it's all relative to each person anyway. I would consider The Office to be on par with what Wheeler evidently thinks of On The Buses, but doesn't mean I'm "right", nor does it mean I'm "wrong". Comedy is individual!



That argument works up to a point, but there is such a thing as good and bad taste. There is a right and a wrong in some cases. For example, Shakespeare is a great writer, whilst Jeffrey Archer is a talentless hack. Anyone who argues otherwise is wrong, as simple as that. Just as anyone who says that OTB is the best sitcom of all time and that all modern comedy is 'rubbish, rubbish and yet more rubbish' is deeply misguided.




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 9:11 PM GMT, Craig said:


Read my original post again Wheeler.I said:'In my book On The Buses is the best sitcom of all time'.That's my opinion and I am entitled to it and because I have an opinion doesn't make me mis-guided.

For me new age comedy is just now my scene and I find it as funny as a dose of the runs and you find my taste much the same no doubt so lets just leave it at that.




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 9:44 PM GMT, Aaron said:


Quote: Wheeler @ November 5, 2006, 4:00 PM



That argument works up to a point, but there is such a thing as good and bad taste. There is a right and a wrong in some cases. For example, Shakespeare is a great writer, whilst Jeffrey Archer is a talentless hack. Anyone who argues otherwise is wrong, as simple as that. Just as anyone who says that OTB is the best sitcom of all time and that all modern comedy is 'rubbish, rubbish and yet more rubbish' is deeply misguided.


Ok, I can't really comment directly because I've not read any Archer, but I suppose I'll agree on the talents of himself and Shakespeare. But even there, different writing styles and subject matters appeal to different people.
In regards to comedy though, I really must argue otherwise. Anybody who says that any sitcom "is the best sitcom of all time" is misguided. However, if they start with "in my opinion" or similar, then fine, that's their opinion. Different shows have different styles and deal with things in different ways, which will appeal to some and not others. That's really all there is to it.




On Sunday 5th November 2006 GMT at 9:50 PM GMT, Wheeler said:


Quote: Aaron @ November 5, 2006, 4:44 PM


That's really all there is to it.



No, there's more to it than that, but it's pointless to go on with this as we'll never agree.




On Monday 6th November 2006 GMT at 1:17 AM GMT, Craig said:


Proof of how this was a classic sitcom comes in the length of series it ran for (7) spawning 74 episodes,its great viewing figures,an award winner,a success in many other countries in the world so much so that the US tried its own version called Lotsa Luck and of course there was a spin-off series brought out in the UK when On The Buses finished.

More proof if you look at it comes from the quality of the writers of On The Buses who were Ronald Chesney and Ronald Wolfe.They had many other comedy successes as well just to re-iterate their talent and director Stuart Allen was also renowned for his work in the trade.The cast speaks for itself in its excellence.




On Monday 6th November 2006 GMT at 1:13 PM GMT, Wheeler said:


It's still rubbish...in my opinion! (H)




On Monday 6th November 2006 GMT at 7:30 PM GMT, Craig said:


Well thats your opinion but not the many millions who tuned into it regularly and still watch the repeats and are buying the DVD's.




On Monday 6th November 2006 GMT at 11:25 PM GMT, Danny said:


Look everybody, i think that On the Buses is amazing but if wheeler or anybody else doesn't like the show that's their opinions, it doesn't bother me that some may not like it as it is not everyone's cup of tea, by the way wheeler if you are reading, do you like Rab C.




On Tuesday 7th November 2006 GMT at 12:09 AM GMT, Wheeler said:


I was waiting for the 'millions of people like it' argument, which is meaningless as millions of people like all sorts of crap.

Daniel, I do like Rab C Nesbitt - thought that Gregor Fisher was great in it. I haven't seen it for a while, but I was a regular viewer during its time on the BBC.




On Tuesday 7th November 2006 GMT at 12:09 AM GMT, Craig said:


Never for one moment have I said Wheeler wasn't/isn't entitled to his opinion.I mean Wheeler has his favourite sitcoms and I have mine and we happen to have a difference of tastes and it should just be left at that.




On Tuesday 7th November 2006 GMT at 12:11 AM GMT, Wheeler said:


I did say sometime ago that we should agree to disagree, so not sure why this has dragged on. BTW, we don't have completely different tastes. I'm a big fan of Porridge, which I believe you also like.




On Tuesday 7th November 2006 GMT at 12:18 AM GMT, Craig said:


Certainly do.Great comedy that.




On Wednesday 3rd January 2007 GMT at 3:11 AM GMT, Danny said:


Craig, have you ever seen the On The Buses sequel Dont Drink The Water




On Thursday 4th January 2007 GMT at 2:23 AM GMT, dizzy starshine said:


I'd be considered born well after the era of On the buses but I own the DVDs and I love it. It's innocent naughty humour. I like the films too, holiday on the buses more than mutiny.




On Thursday 4th January 2007 GMT at 6:58 AM GMT, Aaron said:


I'm also well past the era, and have yet to check out OTB itself (damn my poor- and lazi-ness), but do love that kind of comedy too. :)




On Thursday 4th January 2007 GMT at 9:45 PM GMT, Duke Bilko said:


Despite being one who remembers On The Buses with great affection, I can't agree with Craig that it's the best ever but it certainly was a huge success in its time. Even now whenever I hear the name Butler on the TV or radio I can't stop myself uttering the immortal line "I hate you Butler" which poor old Blakey the bus inspector came out with at least once in every episode after Stan Butler got one over on him yet again.

I thought it was great fun, but then what do I know - I'm currently reading Jeffery Archer's latest book and thoroughly enjoying it!!






On Thursday 25th January 2007 GMT at 2:24 AM GMT, Craig said:


I did say,and this is important,than in my opinion,it is the best sitcom of all time.

Of course everyone has their own opinions and favourites.




On Saturday 27th January 2007 GMT at 8:35 PM GMT, harry fielder said:


I always used to think that if Stan and Jack could pull all the dolly birds I was still in with a chance.(but looking back at my hair and shirt of the time I could have been wrong. *huh* *huh* *huh* )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/harryfielder/carry%20on/on_the_buses15.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/harryfielder/carry%20on/on_the_buses12.jpg

Aitch, *wave*




On Wednesday 7th March 2007 GMT at 12:15 PM GMT, Craig said:


Well now open is my new look On The Buses Forum.If you are a fan the forum is for you at:-

http://www.phpbber.com/php/onthebusesforum.html




On Wednesday 7th March 2007 GMT at 3:50 PM GMT, Aaron said:


Not working for me.




On Wednesday 7th March 2007 GMT at 8:21 PM GMT, Craig said:


Try this Aaron:-

http://www.phpbber.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=onthebusesforum




On Sunday 25th March 2007 GMT at 3:12 AM GMT, Steve Luxton said:


Hey we are still here, http://www.onthebusesfanclub.co.uk/
If you enjoy ON THE BUSES you may enjoy this made by ON THE BUSES fans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM4PPKPXoWI




On Sunday 25th March 2007 GMT at 5:52 AM GMT, Chappers said:


I'm afraid I remember it at the time and didn't think much of it. It was a typical ITV comedy - and that's not being complimentary. There was always something missing from ITV comedies. I could say the humour but there were lots of jokes and funny situations but - without seeming to be too pretentious - they weren't clever. (Please Sir and the Lovers being exceptions from this time).




On Saturday 6th September 2008 GMT at 1:24 AM GMT, happygolarry said:


- Permit me to jump on the bandwagon and introduce my NEW OFFICIAL on the buses forum!!!!

www.onthebuses.net

Enjoy! :-)

(edited to add in official)




On Tuesday 30th September 2008 GMT at 10:46 AM GMT, Craig said:


Or why not just visit the original and the best On The Buses Forum at:-

http://onthebusesforum.org/forum/index.php

If anyone is interested I see the boxset has been re-packaged and out goes the cardboard box in favour of the one DVD case holder.




On Friday 24th October 2008 GMT at 7:37 PM GMT, happygolarry said:


as a roman once said: "ut est a res of sententia meus paganus".




On Tuesday 25th November 2008 GMT at 3:39 PM GMT, john h said:


I love On The Buses, have all the TV episodes plus the 3 feature film as well. The last series wasn't as good, because of course Michael Robbins had left and then Reg Varney left half way through.




On Tuesday 28th April 2009 GMT at 5:38 PM GMT, john lucas 101 said:


I notice the ITV3 are running some of the later episodes of this on a Saturday morning, the ones without 'Arthur'. They really are piss poor. Much as I can enjoy On the Buses in a kind of regressive way, these later episodes are purely embarrassing.




On Tuesday 28th April 2009 GMT at 5:52 PM GMT, Kenneth said:


This is an entertaining thread. For a modern day equivalent of On the Buses, look no further than When the Whistle Blows, which I adore.




On Wednesday 29th April 2009 GMT at 11:00 PM GMT, neil steptoe said:


Great in its day but very dated now, in my opinion anyway.




On Wednesday 29th April 2009 GMT at 11:26 PM GMT, Maurice Minor said:


A thumbs down from me on this one. Typical ITV sub-Carry On drivel that went on far too long.




On Thursday 30th April 2009 GMT at 2:49 AM GMT, Oldrocker said:


Quote: Maurice Minor @ April 29 2009, 8:26 PM BST

A thumbs down from me on this one. Typical ITV sub-Carry On drivel that went on far too long.


:O

500 years ago we would have burnt you at the stake for that remark!!




On Thursday 30th April 2009 GMT at 4:03 PM GMT, Maurice Minor said:


Well maybe a tad harsh... But have seen some of the re-runs recently and they are pretty bad. And the films are depressing.

I think the Carry Ons were to blame for a large part of it; the 'execs' that ran things at that time saw the Carry Ons being successful and thought "So you want more like that? right then..." The Carry Ons begat the Confessions.. films, which begat Adventures of.. films, which caused Whats Up SuperDoc? and Whats Up Nurse?, then Rosie Dixon etc etc. A pale imitation of a pale imitation of a pale imitation....

And in the middle of all that trash, ITV was trying to keep up with its own brand of broadcastable 'bawdiness'. Maybe the 1970s viewers genuinely thought it was hilarious, but at the same time as OTB was going out, the Beeb was doing Dad's Army and Steptoe.

ITV took the 'Sid and Babs' type letchery from the Carry Ons and plonked it into OTB (and other shows) with no real wit or warmth or anything. It just looks sleazy and grubby. I don't think it's just the 21st Century viewpoint either; the Carry Ons at their prime don't come across as desperate or make uncomfortable viewing, they are just funny.




On Thursday 30th April 2009 GMT at 6:35 PM GMT, Craig said:


Well you are entitled to your opinion and there are many many people across the globe ready to disagree with you there. You forget as well that On The Buses came in an era not familiar with sexual equality and also to add that it never resorted to any swearing or nudity to gain its laughs.




On Thursday 30th April 2009 GMT at 6:48 PM GMT, Peter Gash said:


Quote: Maurice Minor @ April 30 2009, 1:03 PM BST

ITV took the 'Sid and Babs' type letchery from the Carry Ons and plonked it into OTB (and other shows) with no real wit or warmth or anything. It just looks sleazy and grubby. I don't think it's just the 21st Century viewpoint either; the Carry Ons at their prime don't come across as desperate or make uncomfortable viewing, they are just funny.


Watching the Carry Ons now, one thing that always makes me laugh and not for the right reasons is the casting.

Take Carry On Camping - Sid James and Bernard Bresslaw who both must have been at least mid-40s were cast as the young romantic leads who desperately wanted to take their girlfriends away for a bit of hows-yer-father, and they're both terrified of the girls' mothers!

I know it's a bit off-topic but I just wanted to join in




On Thursday 30th April 2009 GMT at 6:54 PM GMT, Kenneth said:


Also, you seem have forgetten that On The Buses came in an era not familiar with The Spice Girls (or iPods for that matter) and did not feature any Ewoks. Furthermore, it never resorted to any use of the Yackety Sax music or cameo appearances by the cast of Seinfeld to gain its laughs.


Quote: Peter Gash @ April 30 2009, 3:48 PM BST

Take Carry On Camping - Sid James and Bernard Bresslaw who both must have been at least mid-40s were cast as the young romantic leads who desperately wanted to take their girlfriends away for a bit of hows-yer-father, and they're both terrified of the girls' mothers!


Carry On Camping is one of the least funny Carry Ons, IMO. Sid James was 56 when it was made and Bernie Bresslaw was 35.




On Thursday 30th April 2009 GMT at 7:33 PM GMT, Maurice Minor said:


Quote: Craig @ April 30 2009, 3:35 PM BST

it never resorted to any swearing or nudity to gain its laughs.


It was tea time/prime time telly so it couldn't have. It still couldn't. But it was *dying* to and went as far as it could...


Quote: Kenneth @ April 30 2009, 3:54 PM BST

Carry on Camping is one of the least funny Carry Ons, IMO. Sid James was 56 when it was made and Bernie Bresslaw was 35.


And Barbara Windsor was 32!
:O




On Thursday 30th April 2009 GMT at 8:03 PM GMT, Aaron said:


Quote: Peter Gash @ April 30 2009, 3:48 PM BST

Take Carry On Camping - Sid James and Bernard Bresslaw who both must have been at least mid-40s were cast as the young romantic leads who desperately wanted to take their girlfriends away for a bit of hows-yer-father, and they're both terrified of the girls' mothers!


You've missed the point of Carry On Camping entirely. They're not supposed to be "young romantics". And they're not scared of the girls' mothers, but they didn't like the prudish influence they had over their daughters. But if you've taken that view of the film(s), then they're obviously not to your sense of humour.




On Friday 1st May 2009 GMT at 12:51 AM GMT, Craig said:


Yes I'd say to enjoy/be a fan of On The Buses you have to be a fan of double entendres, innuendo and seaside postcard humour, and frankly like Carry On films. It was all good-hearted humour and hilarious (in my opinion).

As for the point about them not being able to be rude; well they could have done in the films but still never resorted to it (apart from the final spin-off film where there were two brief glimpses of nudity - but that came at a time when this was all the rage).

The remarks regarding Sid and Bernie (Carry Ons) has also been aimed at On The Buses with Stan and Jack but I don't see the problem as any middle-aged unattached bloke would chase after a younger woman if possible, so where is the problem? In Stan's case his hopes of romance were always thwarted anyway.




On Friday 1st May 2009 GMT at 2:13 PM GMT, Peter Gash said:


Quote: Craig @ April 30 2009, 3:35 PM BST

Well you are entitled to your opinion and there are many many people across the globe ready to disagree with you there. You forget as well that On The Buses came in an era not familiar with sexual equality and also to add that it never resorted to any swearing or nudity to gain its laughs.


Mutiny On The Buses was made in 1972.

The Sting was made in 1973.

The same era.

I know which one is wittier and more intelligent in every aspect of its construction without using swearing and/or nudity.

(It's not Mutiny On The Buses.)




On Friday 1st May 2009 GMT at 5:11 PM GMT, Aaron said:


I can't claim to have heard of The Sting, but it doesn't sound like it has even a remotely similar target audience - thus hardly a fair comparison.




On Friday 1st May 2009 GMT at 5:30 PM GMT, Peter Gash said:


Quote: Aaron @ May 1 2009, 2:11 PM BST

I can't claim to have heard of The Sting, but it doesn't sound like it has even a remotely similar target audience - thus hardly a fair comparison.


The Sting is one of the most famous movies ever made.

Mutiny On The Buses was made specifically and deliberately as a movie for a cinema release.

Both are therefore movies. Both are comedies. Both were released in the early 70s seeking cinema-going audiences.

I think they both wanted exactly the same target audience.




On Friday 1st May 2009 GMT at 5:46 PM GMT, Maurice Minor said:


Well that's a wider malaise within the British industry - why did they continue to aim for OTB type output? Again, I'd say the Carry Ons were to blame. They showed you could make a film for £250k and get the No.1 spot at the box office for a week or two. Therefore why bother spending time, effort and money making truly classic films with the likes of Paul Newman in them?

American audiences were (and are) extraordinarily resistant to 'foreign' films, hence Hollywood's domination. British film makers are always on a hiding to nothing at the US box office, yet could extract the same revenue from the British market as American film makers could - but the British offering produced a higher margin.

Doesn't explain why the script had to be a load of tosh though.




On Friday 1st May 2009 GMT at 7:27 PM GMT, Kenneth said:


Quote: Peter Gash @ May 1 2009, 11:13 AM BST

Mutiny On The Buses was made in 1972.

The Sting was made in 1973.

The same era.

I know which one is wittier and more intelligent in every aspect of its construction without using swearing and/or nudity.

(It's not Mutiny On The Buses.)


I guess you must have been watching the expurgated edition of The Sting. Less than six minutes into the movie Bob Redford says "shit" and shortly after that his stripper girlfriend is onstage.

Nevertheless, it's important to note that A Clockwork Orange was made in 1971.
The Blues Brothers was made in 1980. Yet neither of them have ewoks or a cameo by Groucho Marx. I know which one has Sid Vicious singing My Way and without choreography by Oscar Wilde. (It's not Soccer Dog 2 - European Cup). etc.


Quote: Aaron @ May 1 2009, 2:11 PM BST

I can't claim to have heard of The Sting, but it doesn't sound like it has even a remotely similar target audience - thus hardly a fair comparison.


The Sting was an instant classic. A great film. Cannot recommend it too highly.




On Friday 1st May 2009 GMT at 11:15 PM GMT, Aaron said:


Quote: Peter Gash @ May 1 2009, 2:30 PM BST

The Sting is one of the most famous movies ever made.

Mutiny On The Buses was made specifically and deliberately as a movie for a cinema release.

Both are therefore movies. Both are comedies. Both were released in the early 70s seeking cinema-going audiences.

I think they both wanted exactly the same target audience.


Comparing the information on each of them on IMDb, your analysis is laughable at best.


Quote: Maurice Minor @ May 1 2009, 2:46 PM BST

Well that's a wider malaise within the British industry - why did they continue to aim for OTB type output? Again, I'd say the Carry Ons were to blame. They showed you could make a film for £250k and get the No.1 spot at the box office for a week or two.


I'd say it's because they knew they were onto a sure-fire hit, tapping the audience of an already hugely successful TV series!


Quote: Kenneth @ May 1 2009, 4:27 PM BST

The Sting was an instant classic. A great film. Cannot recommend it too highly.


If it's ever on TV, I may remember to watch it.




On Friday 1st May 2009 GMT at 11:17 PM GMT, bigfella said:


Comparing The Sting and Mutiny On The Buses - I'm wondering whether Peter is actually a Government minister?




On Saturday 2nd May 2009 GMT at 3:24 AM GMT, Maurice Minor said:


Quote: Aaron @ May 1 2009, 8:15 PM BST

I'd say it's because they knew they were onto a sure-fire hit, tapping the audience of an already hugely successful TV series!


Call me a naive romantic, but I'm sure they *really* felt they had an important story to tell the world, and that a tale involving the frustrations encountered in the everyday lives of two working class bus company... oh, maybe not.




On Thursday 20th August 2009 GMT at 7:42 PM GMT, Jack Massey said:


Anybody read this novel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Garden_of_Unearthly_Delights