Nice to see Channel 4 show faith in quality as opposed to ratings. Whilst I believe viewing figures will pick up due to the exposure Mitchell & Webb have had recently, it will never be a massive viewer puller in the mould of say Only Fools. From a commercial perspective I expect Peep Show's audience lie in a quite a distinct demographic which is obviously appealing for target advertising. Anyway five cheers for channel 4. Anyone know when series 4 is airing ?
April 13th I think. I'm glad they've given this a long run, British comedies usually end after 2 series nowadays, so its good that this has been given a 4th and 5th series, hopefully it maintains the quality. I'm not sure I can look at Mitchell and Webb in the same way though after those poor Mac and PC adverts, but hey they dont write Peep Show so theres no reason it should be crap.
Wikipedia has it that they return on Fri, 13 April. (And don't forget to pre-order at Amazon. The DVD is set to be released on 5 November.)
I love Peep Show and M & W but don't like their sketch shows, if I'd seen them on Comic Relief and didn't know who they were, I would be turned off.
Quote: Martin Holmes @ March 21, 2007, 1:01 PMApril 13th I think. I'm glad they've given this a long run, British comedies usually end after 2 series nowadays, so its good that this has been given a 4th and 5th series, hopefully it maintains the quality. I'm not sure I can look at Mitchell and Webb in the same way though after those poor Mac and PC adverts, but hey they dont write Peep Show so theres no reason it should be crap.
Quote: Leevil @ March 21, 2007, 1:07 PMI love Peep Show and M & W but don't like their sketch shows, if I'd seen them on Comic Relief and didn't know who they were, I would be turned off.
Good news this, and Im a fan of peep and their own stuff. Though Peep show is better!
Quote: Nick Rivers @ March 21, 2007, 1:19 PMI like lee and herring's piss take of those adverts. I suppose the accusation is M & W sold out, but would you refuse Apple's cash?????? I would. Corporate whores!
Yeah Lee & Herring's piss take is great..."It should have been us Stew doing those adverts, they probably got a free computer and..£500."
I think it's great that they're doing more series of Peep Show, although it's probably a fairly cynical move to try and cash in on the increasingly high profile M & W.
Does anyone have a link to Lee and Herring's piss take? It's passed me by so far but it sounds like it is worth watching.
Lee & Herring...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ih41uU17P_o Part 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=S24UJx0v9Og Part 2
Great news about the fifth series, and thanks for the links, watch and enjoyed.
It's a good question he asks why aren't Lee and Herring still on the tele?
In this age of PVR's I also had to look up the Apple adverts on youtube too.
I'm not sure that they've actually had the ads on TV, have they?
Yeah, thanks for the L&H links Martin.
A reminder for everyone that the new series kicks off tonight, at 10:30pm on Channel 4.
I thought it was good. The second half was definitely a lot better than the first half.
And I think that Mitchell and Webb do contribute to the writing of Peep Show, although just how much it is, I don't know.
The gig that Lee and Herring did together, that Martin mentioned above, was funny though. It was a nice little dig at M&W. Do you think there was any genuine malice there?
Lee and Herring are playing on the same bill in a couple of weeks too, I wonder if they'll reunite at that...
If I have to f**k you to f**k her, I will.
Fantastic.
I don't know if it's because I understand comedy writing a bit more now, but I did like the structure of that episode a lot. There were some good callbacks. The megatron made me chortle.
I got properly annoyed with Jeremy. Stop trying to bond!
Dammit. I don't want to turn into Mark...
I watched about seven and a half minutes and whilst it was OK it didn't seem brilliant enoughto stop me turning over to watch Jonathan Ross.
Great opening episode, loved the rubbish none fight at the end. Im now going to go and pretend Im watching 'Heat'.
Quote: David Chapman @ May 3 2008, 12:16 AM BSTI watched about seven and a half minutes and whilst it was OK it didn't seem brilliant enoughto stop me turning over to watch Jonathan Ross.
It was ok. Nice to have a flat-based episode again, but despite a few decent lines it didn't sparkle quite like the first 3 series. It's still welcome back though.
Awesome show. Not just the best sitcom on at the moment but one of the best ever IMHO.
And I think Mark's at his best when he's single.
Definitely.
I saw some clips online, and it did have that Peep Show magic. I unfortunately live downunder I'll have to wait for a torrent or something to see it. I love it too much...I can't wait! 
Quote: Winterlight @ May 2 2008, 11:34 PM BSTI thought it was good. The second half was definitely a lot better than the first half.
"I'm his one."
Yeah, not bad. Liked the balls are baked potatoes line amongst others mentioned. Not totally LOL but better than a lot of other stuff currently, which isn't really saying much.
I also laughed at a Welshman getting a dart threw at his ass on shortly after Peep Show.
I enjoyed it, made me laugh a fair bit. I was nice that the majority of the episode happened in the flat, back to more Series 1 and 2 setting. Last series it was a bit 'Mark and Jez Go On Adventures' which sometimes took away from what Peep Show was about.
But yeah I liked the new episode, a nice start to the series. "Here mate go and see the second half, it's SHIT!". 
I want Big Suze.
Please.
Quote: Martin Holmes @ May 3 2008, 4:49 PM BSTLast series it was a bit 'Mark and Jez Go On Adventures' which sometimes took away from what Peep Show was about.
It was funny, in parts, and the structure of the episode worked well. but I did feel as if much of the humour was recycled from previous series' - i guess that's one of the problems of having a series that focusses so heavily on two characters. I'll keep watchin, from a professional point of view, and no doubt there will be some funny moments - but this is certainly a series that has peaked some time ago.
Also - I can't help but wonder just how much of an impact the Apple adverts had, and the dreadful sketch show. Knowing that the lead actors aren't especially funny in themselves is a little off putting.
It was funny, in parts, and the structure of the episode worked well. but I did feel as if much of the humour was recycled from previous series' - i guess that's one of the problems of having a series that focusses so heavily on two characters. I'll keep watchin, from a professional point of view, and no doubt there will be some funny moments - but this is certainly a series that has peaked some time ago.
Also - I can't help but wonder just how much of an impact the Apple adverts had, and the dreadful sketch show. Knowing that the lead actors aren't especially funny in themselves is a little off putting.
Hmm. Tend to agree with that, MTC.
It was pretty decent and probably still the best on TV by default, but I think it's probably past its best. The thing about Mitchell & Webb is that, to me, they were much better when people didn't know about them. They had a radio show and Peep Show was gaining an audience, but now they've been on everything it's all a bit too much.
Also, I think once you reach a big goal in a sitcom it can really suffer afterwards (Del becoming a millionaire, Niles marrying Daphne). I think I'd have preferred them to have gone on being single and then not had the wedding at the end of series 6 and called it a day then. Going back to how they were feels like they're starting all over and we've seen that.
Certainly it is better with them in the flat as it was all over the place to start with last series. But I don't see what Big Suze brings to proceedings, there aren't really any set-ups and jokes in there (you've just got to like things they come up with) and they really did the kids thing in an earlier series when they were hassling Mark.
can't speak for Webb, but David Mitchell is wonderfully funny without a Peep Show script. Here's a very charming podcast he did for The Sound of Young America.
http://www.maximumfun.org/blog/2008/04/podcast-david-mitchell-of-mitchell-webb.html
Judging by that, you can't speak for Mitchell either.
Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ May 5 2008, 3:46 PM BSTJudging by that, you can't speak for Mitchell either.

I tell you what I've missed from series 3 onwards, the lack of Mark vs Geoff action. That was a good source of conflict and resulted in some of the show's best laughs. Ah well.
Is Geoff going to be in this series?
Who was Geoff?
The one who Mark's girlfriend was dating a bit at work?
Yeah. Neil Fitzmaurice is his real name. I think...
Im giving you the broom Jeff!
Oh yes the broom!
I wanted Mark to give the criminals the broom last week. But he neglected to.
Quote: Winterlight @ May 5 2008, 7:01 PM BST
Is Geoff going to be in this series?
Quote: Winterlight @ May 5 2008, 7:12 PM BSTYeah. Neil Fitzmaurice is his real name. I think...
From a non professional, non analysing view... I really enjoyed Friday's show. Was easy to watch!! And I giggled! 
I thought tonight's episode was absolutely brilliant and almost every scene with Mark in it was perfect.
I like how they seem to have pulled the trigger on Sophie and made her a very dislikable character where as before it was just hinted she was horrible.
Of course it's tired it's been around for years. That said it's still taught, inspired, and very, very funny.
It's also wince inducingly horrible, I know you've all got vagins, who would you suck off? That thing of having to go back to the office.
Squirmtastic TV
I had one little problem that last night's episode. It constantly mentioned that it was Mark that gilted Sophie at the wedding. However, Mark and Sophie married and it was Sophie that left Mark. Surely it was Sophie who gilted Mark? Or am I completely wrong?
Another awesome episode of the funniest show on TV!
Best episode for a while. Series 4 seemed to be all about setting things up so they could be back in the flat and office for series 5, and the latter is all the better for it. Glad to see Dobby is in the cast for next week's episode too - she looks like a great addition. The stationary cupboard scene and aftermath were great stuff.
Quote: Ian Wolf @ May 10 2008, 9:33 AM BSTI had one little problem that last night's episode. It constantly mentioned that it was Mark that gilted Sophie at the wedding. However, Mark and Sophie married and it was Sophie that left Mark. Surely it was Sophie who gilted Mark? Or am I completely wrong?
I've never really watched Peep Show, but I ended up watching it last night-and really enjoyed it! Dobby and Mark in the cupboard were hilarious, as was the way Jeremy just kept thinking "vagina" in so many different voices. Will definitely watch it again.
Am I going to regret admitting to actually doing that before?
Quote: Badge @ May 10 2008, 10:05 AM BSTBest episode for a while. Series 4 seemed to be all about setting things up so they could be back in the flat and office for series 5, and the latter is all the better for it. Glad to see Dobby is in the cast for next week's episode too - she looks like a great addition. The stationary cupboard scene and aftermath were great stuff.
I loved it! The comment about keeping on trying to suck himself off! ahahah
I liked Super Hans!
Finally.
I thought last night's episode was very good as well.
The stationary cupboard scene was well shot. The contrasting looks on Mark's and Dobbie's face in the mirror was hilarious.
My only niggle was that Barney seemed like an exact replica of Sophie's brother from series 4. I expect they couldn't get the actor who played Sophie's brother as he's now busy with his derivative indie band.
Quote: Winterlight @ May 10 2008, 12:47 PM BSTMy only niggle was that Barney seemed like an exact replica of Sophie's brother from series 4. I expect they couldn't get the actor who played Sophie's brother as he's now busy with his derivative indie band.
Johnson is great, I loved him in the first series (not as much as Mark did though).
Johnson was great when he smashed the handle off the cup.

Not on my watch.
Quote: hotzappa11 @ May 10 2008, 3:36 PM BSTJohnson was great when he smashed the handle off the cup.
I loved him for that too! And how he did it so easily, without smashing the rest of the mug!
The expressions on the faces in the closet was very good. Also enjoyed Jez's face when the lad decided to choose Super Hans over him. He didn't really want to be chosen yet was still peeved to have been overlooked. Robert Webb does that look very well.
Was a bit puzzled too by the cousin character's appearance. Obviously Joe Van Moyland was not available.
Quote: David H @ May 11 2008, 10:21 AM BST
Was a bit puzzled too by the cousin character's appearance. Obviously Joe Van Moyland was not available.
I noticed the TV, Playstation 2 (maybe with Mark's memory card)and the other equipment that brings the Megatron together, were back in the flat in episode 2. Could have been interesting to know how they got it...
Joe Lean and the Jing Jang Jong are awful.
That is all.
This is the first time, since I stopped reading the NME, that I've heard mention of that band this year.
Loved Mark's quote "This was old school paedo-ing, back in the days before it got such a bad name" 
We drew analogy from the SuperHans-Barney situation at school the other day...was not good!
Yeah, that's one of the few things I didn't like from that episode and over useage of the word "cocksucker," I think it was.
Never heard cocksucker said? suck me off was said a lot .
I think I objected more to the fact we never got to see superhans throat f**king the lad, perhaps on the dvd extras?? 
Quote: hotzappa11 @ May 13 2008, 7:55 PM BSTYeah, that's one of the few things I didn't like from that episode and over useage of the word "cocksucker," I think it was.
Quote: Rockabilly @ May 13 2008, 8:06 PM BSTI objected more to the fact we never got to see superhans throat f**king the lad
Well I thought it was funny.
Me too.
As with the first episode we did seem to be going over old ground. Wasn't there a story in a previous series where it turned out Jeremy had sucked off Superhans, or vice versa. That said, I did laugh alot. And it's always great to see Johnson.
Yeah there was, that was the episode about the "Very Bad Thing"...
I concur with the view that this series is covering old ground. I did laugh, but I was also quite bored in all honesty.
Over exposure can be a massive problem - especially when the new material isn't great.
Poor.
Well I'm loving it. I really look forward to my yearly dose of Peep Show and its not letting me down at all this year.
I can sort of see what some people are saying about covering old ground but I truly don't care as I love these characters so much.
The Johnson mug scene was an instant classic and I'm loving the new character of Dobby.
Comedy highlight of my week at the moment 
Dobby was very good, granted.
Those of us who went along to the Tilt recordings will have recognised Dobby as Isy Suttie, one of the Tilt performers.
Quote: Griff @ May 14 2008, 12:05 PM BSTThose of us who went along to the Tilt recordings will have recognised Dobby as Isy Suttie, one of the Tilt performers.
Sorry, but cute:

She has a quirky sort of attractiveness about her definitely.
Also how great a name for a club is 'The F**kbunker'?
It's an even better name for the stationery cupboard.
Quote: Griff @ May 14 2008, 2:15 PM BSTIt's an even better name for the stationery cupboard.
I believe the term for her is Fugly.
Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ May 14 2008, 5:03 PM BSTI believe the term for her is Fugly.
She has the same kind of look as the girl in Flight Of The Conchords.
I was just about to say that!

Quote: zooo @ May 14 2008, 5:44 PM BSTShe has the same kind of look as the girl in Flight Of The Conchords.
On the subject of the girl from Flight of the Conchords, I note that she's now a contributor on The Daily Show. Unfortunately the segments I've seen with her in don't seem to have gone down too well...
And that Peep Show girl was quite sexy in an awkward kind of way.
There's a girl in Flight of the Conchords?
Quote: Griff @ May 14 2008, 5:04 PM BSTCharming.
Quote: Bam! @ May 16 2008, 12:41 AM BSTThere's a girl in Flight of the Conchords?
A girl who looks like Jemaine should be taking her rightful place under the Big Top.
That would be a bit scary.
Jemaine as a man is gorge though.
Sometimes awkward looking girls can be quite sexy.
Well thank god for that.
Not too awkward, mind.

Hawt.
Quote: Mark @ May 15 2008, 12:10 AM BST
I've been lucky enough to see Friday's episode of Peep Show early... don't miss it!
Quote: zooo @ May 16 2008, 11:29 AM BSTJemaine as a man is gorge though.
Quite?
Quote: zooo @ May 16 2008, 11:30 AM BSTWell thank god for that.
Quote: zooo @ May 16 2008, 11:51 AM BSTQuite?
Quote: Aaron @ May 16 2008, 11:56 AM BST
We've gone really off-topic again. Someone please drag it back on track!
Me too. It's on tonight y'know?
It's on in a minute! 
A whole lot better than last week. Johnson kicking ass again. The scene with the 20 pound note was funny. And we all knew Mark's party was going to go down the drain. Oh, and Dobby was back again. Yay!
I thought last weeks was much better than this weeks episode although it was still a good one.
Although I know if Mark did become more assertive and win one he wouldn't really be Mark, I can't help but feel strangely gutted as he makes the wrong move and gets humiliated week after week.
Jez offering to dance at the end was very funny though.
Great ep I thought. Think they all have been this series though.
It was ace. Better than last week's I thought.
Who was the Aussie woman?
She's been on some sitcom before, playing the same kind of part. (Or even on Peep Show...?)
Quote: zooo @ May 17 2008, 1:24 PM BSTIt was ace. Better than last week's I thought.
Who was the Aussie woman?
She's been on some sitcom before, playing the same kind of part. (Or even on Peep Show...?)
Ohhhhh. Thanks!
She used to be on Eastenders, playing the same part, but pretending to be attracted to Minty, to get free room and board.
I laughed at this quite a lot last night, but didn't see the end unfortunately. I was watching it in the pub and the landlord wanted to shut dead on 11!
Who else has watched Peep Show in the pub?
Quote: zooo @ May 17 2008, 2:00 PM BSTOhhhhh. Thanks!
She used to be on Eastenders, playing the same part, but pretending to be attracted to Minty, to get free room and board.
One thing... were the first two episodes played out of order? In week 1, the TV is stolen, but it's back in week 2. Now, in week 3, the TV is missing again.
What?
I didn't notice whether it was back again after being stolen.
I thought they said he wouldn't buy a new one to replace the stolen one, though?
LOVE the avatar by the way.
Great episode. Am I the only person who watches bits with hands over face in shock.
When Mark let her stay, and sleazily asked her for sex. Before she told him to f**k off at his own birthday.
Ooh horrible. I for some reason love Mark's really blokish taste in food.
And when are he and Jez just going to get married.
Oh, soon I hope.
They used to only hint at the homoeroticness of their relationship once or twice per series. Now it's once a show!
I think in season 1 or 2 when they both had complete break downs, was darkly hilarious.
The stalking picnic.
But I look at Mark, and think tell Dobby you love her. It won't be funny, it'll be dull, and you're only a fictional character.
But surely you deserve some happiness.
Yeah, I think C4 played these out of order. Week 2's episode makes much more sense as a direct follow-up on S4's finale.
Plus the TV stuff being stolen in episode 1 is still present in episode 2.
Week Two: http://www.ranger-retrocenter.com/misc/peepshow5x2.jpg
Week Three: http://www.ranger-retrocenter.com/misc/peepshow5x3.jpg
You just called channel 4 out of order.
You'll never work in this town again.
Oo, naughty naughty Channel 4!
Quote: SnoopsWarner @ May 18 2008, 7:51 PM BSTYeah, I think C4 played these out of order. Week 2's episode makes much more sense as a direct follow-up on S4's finale.
I've enjoyed series 5 thus far.
I think the charm with series 1 to 3 was that, bar a few very odd occurrences, a lot of it was quite believable - especially the thoughts in the guys' heads.
With series 4 things got a bit surreal. The dog eating bit was extreme. However... regardless of how surreal it got, it was genuinely very funny. I pissed myself at the scene with the charred dog in the bag.
So here we are, series 5, the aftermath of the wedding fiasco.
One thing that fascinates me is the different ways people accept and appreciate Peep Show. Like someone else saying the whole sucking off Barney bit was (in the words of Sophie's brother) "a bit much" - it's a comedy show, not a documentary. Sure it is dark at times, but it's all in the name of comedy.
The biggest threat for Peep Show is that it could get a bit repetitive. I mean when they aren't off on any 'adventures' it is essentially two weird blokes sharing a flat and making you cringe. I'm eager to see how this series pans out, especially considering the writers have claimed Peep Show could run forever, but I don't think people should necessarily moan every time they feel that one character did something they didn't like a few too many times in an episode.
It is a fine line though. I really don't want to hear Mark say "I think she's the one" any more in this series!
And to the person that said they really wanted for Mark to give the burglar the 'broom' the other week - I would have been very disappointed if he had. That is moving dangerously into catchphrase territory, much like the aforementioned "I think she's the one".
As a sidenote, how would you all like for Peep Show to (eventually) end? Surely they wouldn't make it Friends style soppy, ala happily ever after? Must be some middleground between making them both marry off and killing them off - hope it isn't too underwhelming. Oh the pressures of consistently writing comedy gold.
Like I said before, I wish they would stop making this show, just so I can own it all in one neat complete box set, watch it, and complain about how they didn't make more.
I love it. So cringe inducing, it makes me nervouse to watch it.
My siblings often enjoy the same comedies that I do, we have similar senses of humour, however my Brother isn't too keen on Peep Show and my Sister literally cannot watch it. She cant hack the cringey bits at all.
I cringe as much as the next guy, but it always seems to be the precursor to a very humourous moment in Peep Show - so it all balances out in the end!
I'm enjoying it but was slightly disappointed at Mark picking the 'pretty and horrible' one when he got the chance with Dobbie this week. It was a bit 'oh, Mark goes for the pretty and horrible one again' kind of feeling, and you knew he would. I wouldn't've minded so much if in voiceover he'd said something like 'Oh, here I go with the *pretty* one again' or something self-deprecating to that effect.
He's just done it before and he'll do it again. It was funny in the first few series when perhaps we didn't know Mark as well, but now we all know *exactly* how Mark is supposed to react to things, maybe it's time they surprised us with a complete change. He could go 'bollocks to the pretty one' and goes off with a *really* ugly girl, and she treats him the same way. His self-loathing would be *great* in an episode like that!
Dan
Quote: Mark @ May 19 2008, 12:17 AM BSTHi Snoops. Welcome to the site. Very interesting theory you've come up with here - and based on the TVs it looks like you're right - they must have swapped the episodes around!
Why have they done that though, that's the question?!? It definitely would have made more sense the other way around. The only thing I can think of is they wanted the Dobby link to follow straight into episode three? But that's a bit rubbish.
I thought Friday's was cringworthingly brilliant. The Aussie girl annoyed the hell out of me, but I love that Mark was still after her. Bless Jez... he's a plonker....but in a good way. 
Quote: swerytd @ May 19 2008, 8:54 AM BSTI'm enjoying it but was slightly disappointed at Mark picking the 'pretty and horrible' one when he got the chance with Dobbie this week.
Quote: Graham Bandage @ May 19 2008, 9:30 AM BSTBut in episode one, it's clear Mark has never met Dobby before.
They've bought a new telly, for flip's sake. It happens.
Eek, we're on episode three, aren't we?
I bow down before Mark, the mighty, king of the sitcoms.
I'm effectively a bumbling idiot, cacking on about nonsense.
I meant in episode two he doesn't know who Dobby is. But in the first episode he hasn't gone back to work yet. So episode one must happen before episode two, and episode two must happen before episode three.
I'm beginning to think the big telly/small telly thing is a massive cock-up from start to finish. They should be made to give back their Baftas.
Quote: Graham Bandage @ May 19 2008, 10:17 AM BST
I'm beginning to think the big telly/small telly thing is a massive cock-up from start to finish. They should be made to give back their Baftas.

Quote: swerytd @ May 19 2008, 8:54 AM BSTI'm enjoying it but was slightly disappointed at Mark picking the 'pretty and horrible' one when he got the chance with Dobbie this week. It was a bit 'oh, Mark goes for the pretty and horrible one again' kind of feeling, and you knew he would. I wouldn't've minded so much if in voiceover he'd said something like 'Oh, here I go with the *pretty* one again' or something self-deprecating to that effect.
He's just done it before and he'll do it again. It was funny in the first few series when perhaps we didn't know Mark as well, but now we all know *exactly* how Mark is supposed to react to things, maybe it's time they surprised us with a complete change. He could go 'bollocks to the pretty one' and goes off with a *really* ugly girl, and she treats him the same way. His self-loathing would be *great* in an episode like that!
Dan
But sitcoms aren't about change, nothings supposed to change.
As such Peepshow isn't really a sitcom.
Interesting thing being, does it annoy us cos somethings change, but others don't.
Nothing is supposed to change? Sounds a bit boring. Maybe that's why some have quite short lives then.
Quote: jeej @ May 19 2008, 11:32 AM BSTTo be fair, Mark DID show signs of changing in episode 3 by going Speed Dating and throwing a big Birthday Party. He wouldn't have done those things previously.
Well at the Peep Show BAFTA launch, Armstrong, Bain, Mitchell and Webb all seemed pretty convinced that Peep Show is a sitcom. They discussed the point at length.
And I don't see Mark changing in any meaningful way that would negate Peep Show being a sitcom. He might be a bit more of a dick, but he's still the same dick, living in the same flat, doing the same job, making the same kinds of mistakes amongst the same group of friends. He's not learning and growing - he's becoming a more extreme version of his original self, which is not only allowable but desirable in sitcomland.
I think I prefered series 4 of this because there was a better arc to the series, with everything building towards the disasterous wedding. This series, although making me laugh, seems to be treading water.
There is certainly an element of revisiting past glories. For example the twenty-quid-note wanking gag (which did make me laugh) wasn't a million miles away from the similar scene in series 1 (or 2 ?) with the Dungeons and Dragons magazine.
It'll be interesting to see where they go in the sixth series. They can probably get away with this rehashed material for this series, but I'd be very disappointed if they do it again for series six.
There was a D&D as a mega geek, I missed that, tell me more.
Quote: Griff @ May 19 2008, 2:08 PM BSTFor example the twenty-quid-note wanking gag (which did make me laugh) wasn't a million miles away from the similar scene in series 1 (or 2 ?) with the Dungeons and Dragons magazine.
Another 'new' episode, more recycled jokes/scenarios. If I wasn't interested in the genre from a professional p.o.v, I wouldn't make any effort to watch it.
Still funny in parts, mind.
QuoteThere was a D&D as a mega geek, I missed that, tell me more
I did find the "Jeff's told a joke! Jeff's told a joke!" bit very funny, though.
Yeah that was brilliant.
I think chip's right about series six: it would be nice if they had something to work towards at the end. (ie the birth of Mark/Jeremy's kid that was a result of some wanking accident or something less icky)
Dan
Quote: chipolata @ May 19 2008, 2:25 PM BSTI did find the "Jeff's told a joke! Jeff's told a joke!" bit very funny, though.
Where do well stand on the Mark/Sophie thing? The last episode seemed to imply Mark was still interested.
Did it?
I didn't notice.
Sophie can pee off in my opinion.
I want her to stay drunk and a mess in toilet. She's funnier that way.
Quote: Mexter @ May 19 2008, 8:08 PM BSTWhere do well stand on the Mark/Sophie thing? The last episode seemed to imply Mark was still interested.
Mark just doesn't like to intentionally offend or rock the boat with most people. Hence treading on eggshells around Sophie. I don't think he still likes her. I would be disappointed if he ended up back with her, to be honest.
Mark's an opportunist horn dog.
He'd knob Sophie in the same way he'd knob anything with ovaries.
But would he? He's a bit of a ditherer. Smooth techniques on Toni, using WWII knowledge!
Quote: sootyj @ May 19 2008, 11:13 PM BSTMark's an opportunist horn dog.
He'd knob Sophie in the same way he'd knob anything with ovaries.

Quote: Aaron @ May 20 2008, 12:17 AM BST
Whheeyy, look, 100 posts in 6 hours and 21 minutes!
Hey all! Finally found a place on the net to discuss this brilliant show. I've seen all the episodes and it ranks among my favourite brit comedies (that of course inherently must mean all comedies)
So on to series 5! I think it's been going great. The comments of them rehashing past scenarios are probably true, but it's a comedy not a drama and my criteria is that if it makes me laugh I don't overanalyze it. The cockup with the tv thing is definitely an error of continuity, because as someone pointed out, mark meets dobby in episode 2 and knows her already in episode 3, plus he isn't back at work in episode one, so it can't be out of order.
Memorable moments of this series so far include Big Suze sweetly suggesting they tie up the burglar and burn him with cigarettes, mark and dobby in the cupboard, and mark pointing out what big feet he has compared to the girl. (I'm not gloating it's just true!) Also mark lamenting that "Can't we leave the mugs out it?" (Cup of piggin tea then back to my piggin campaign strategy)
I thought they could have gone a bit further with Jez's desperate criminality. I was expecting him to be hanging out at coffee shops nicking muffins from people's plates when they went to the washroom, but I guess that would be a bit too much like hard work for him.
Anyone else notice how one of the burglar's mates told him to "f**k off clean-shirt"... clean-shirt was the insult a band of kids who were harassing him in the very first episode of the show called him!
I suppose he does kept a very well laundered wardrobe..
I'm in the same boat, Sal. Joined yesterday. Finally found somewhere to discuss comedy.
I loved that line when Mark is sitting on the burglar and he tells the girl to go get a bottle or a spanner from the kitchen. He looks back down at the burglar and the burglar says...
"If she spanners me, I'll kick off..."
Quote: Sal Paradise @ May 20 2008, 12:55 AM BSTamong my favourite brit comedies (that of course inherently must mean all comedies)
I don't think every time something similar happens it's rehashing old material. Like Mark having problems with kids is part of his character, like how Ross in Friends kept getting divorced.
I did wonder about the TV though. Last week I thought with the TV being back that's comedy. Bad stuff happens but everything is back to normal the next week, maybe Mark bought a new TV between episode 1 and 2 but then in episode 3 when they had the small one I was surprised. Did those kids come back and take the new one between episode 2 and 3 so he bought a small one to stop them taking it?
I didn't notice the TV coming back and going again - obviously wasn't paying enough attention!
Only noticed the tiny one in episode 3.
QuoteAnyone else notice how one of the burglar's mates told him to "f**k off clean-shirt"... clean-shirt was the insult a band of kids who were harassing him in the very first episode of the show called him!
I think Peep Show gets in trouble because there is some progression, people expect the characters to grow more.
It's like no one questioned why Terry and June never had kids, or Blakey constructively dismissed Butler, or Cliff didn't go berzerk and shoot every one for calling him stupid in Cheers.
Sitcoms live in a bubble, I picture Mark being called clean shirt, and being sexually inadequate into his 70s.
That's true, I think the calls for progression/character development come from a demographic that has become increasingly used to it over the years. Friends certainly saw characters evolve over the years.
Personally, I think that narrative comedy is pretty much unstoppable for the moment - but these things are cyclical of course.
It's kinda a stealth sitcom, in that it feels like it's moving, but the characters don't really move at all.
There's the thing - from my point of view, I can really tell that the character's aren't moving. I'd rather they drop that pretence and commit to a Seinfeld 'no learning' mantra. But, they will have been 'advised' to include a narrative progression (fake or otherwise) so it ain't going to happen like that.
I don't mind the characterts not progressing and "learning things" - that's fine and it's the essence of good sitcom - but I do expect writers to come up with fresh, new set-ups and stories. Ones that don't retread old ground. In past series of Peep Show there was no character progression but there was no shortage of comic invention either. This series has been sadly lacking that. But, like Curb Your Enthusiasm, it's still delivering laughs.
One of the beauties of Peep Show is the fact that, not only are Mark and Jeremy doomed to make the same mistake over and over again, but they know they are.
But good comedy writing should think of fresh and original ways to highlight a characters failings.
I'm actually not going out tonight so I can watch this... I am sad.
Quote: EllieJP @ May 23 2008, 1:31 PM BSTI'm actually not going out tonight so I can watch this... I am sad.
Quote: Rachel @ May 23 2008, 1:56 PM BSTNot at all! I actually get excited for Peep Show every week.
Quote: Alan C @ May 23 2008, 2:02 PM BSTYou have a thing for Mark dontchya?

Quote: EllieJP @ May 23 2008, 1:31 PM BSTI'm actually not going out tonight so I can watch this... I am sad.
Quote: chipolata @ May 20 2008, 10:35 AM BSTBut good comedy writing should think of fresh and original ways to highlight a characters failings.
Quote: Aaron @ May 23 2008, 3:00 PM BSTRecord it?
Quote: EllieJP @ May 23 2008, 3:34 PM BSTIt's not quite the same is it?
And Lee Mack is on HIGNFY, and he's my new best friend after I met him! Although he probably wouldn't remember me.
Quote: EllieJP @ May 23 2008, 3:34 PM BSTIt's not quite the same is it?
Quote: Alan C @ May 23 2008, 3:38 PM BSTOooh is he, I like him better in Not Going Out but he can be funny and I'm sure that once met never forgotten Ellie
QuoteI did ask him to sleep with me in front of 50 people!
He was well up for it until she started booing...
Dan
LOL.
Quote: Griff @ May 23 2008, 4:18 PM BSTThat's very kind of you, inviting us all to watch.
I'm sorry, I think we need a bit more information about this!

Complete transcribed conversation please, betwixt Ellie and Lee:
Quote: zooo @ May 17 2008, 2:00 PM BSTOhhhhh. Thanks!
She used to be on Eastenders, playing the same part, but pretending to be attracted to Minty, to get free room and board.
Yup!
She annoyed me back then too.
Why isn't Spoons in the comedy database oh illustrious Aaron, carrier of the vessel for the deity?
Which comedy database?
Not a sitcom. Then again, neither is QI... hmm..
Quote: Aaron @ May 23 2008, 6:00 PM BSTWhich comedy database?
Quote: Leevil @ May 23 2008, 6:04 PM BSTNot a sitcom. Then again, neither is QI... hmm..
Oh, thought it was a sketch show?
Quote: Leevil @ May 23 2008, 6:10 PM BSTOh, thought it was a sketch show?
Yes, I'm pretty sure that Spoons was 'marketed' at broadcast as sketch.
Quote: Leevil @ May 23 2008, 6:10 PM BSTOh, thought it was a sketch show?
Quote: Aaron @ May 23 2008, 6:12 PM BSTYes, I'm pretty sure that Spoons was 'marketed' at broadcast as sketch.
Well, we obviously decided it wasn't. In fact, now we're talking about it, I remember watching some whilst waiting for whatever was broadcast after it, and deciding that it was sketch.
Wikipedia reckons it's a sketch show as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoons_%28TV_series%29
Quote: Aaron @ May 23 2008, 6:15 PM BSTWell, we obviously decided it wasn't. In fact, now we're talking about it, I remember watching some whilst waiting for whatever was broadcast after it, and deciding that it was sketch.
Wikipedia reckons it's a sketch show as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoons_%28TV_series%29
As does Amazon. And IMDb. Problem solved.
Quote: Alan C @ May 23 2008, 6:16 PM BSTLOL nah it is a sketch show just checking to see if you were doing your job properly
Quote: Aaron @ May 23 2008, 6:17 PM BSTAs does Amazon. And IMDb. Problem solved.

Quote: Aaron @ May 23 2008, 6:18 PM BSTAs does Amazon. And IMDb. Problem solved.
He says, covering up embarrassment as he watches more of the show and realises that it's sketch afterall.
Charlie Brooker was a writer on it! 
Quote: Alan C @ May 23 2008, 6:19 PM BSTNah I knew you would never be wrong in your database Aaron ... Love Thy Neighbour, oh how I'm glad to see you
Quote: Aaron @ May 23 2008, 6:22 PM BSTExactly. We check our facts.

Eventually?! Cheeky git.
Quote: Aaron @ May 23 2008, 6:25 PM BSTEventually?! Cheeky git.
Evidently that's where Mark put them.
I'd put them there personally too though.
Quote: Aaron @ May 23 2008, 6:30 PM BSTEvidently that's where Mark put them.
I'd put them there personally too though.
"At least she didn't wee on me, that's a positive" 
"Not a proper rape, nothing went up my bum"
I love Peep Show!
Quote: EllieJP @ May 23 2008, 10:55 PM BST"At least she didn't wee on me, that's a positive"
What a crazy episode, it was great though.
"I would literally stab a baby" 
Mark was on top form, Jez' attitude towards him mum was a bit weird though.
Oh, imo this was one of the best peepshow episodes eer, great line and great performances. I can't remember it but one of Super Hans' lines at the funeral had me laughing like anything, it was something about fire.
Best episode of the series so far. As a side note, was there a different writer on this episode? At the end Im sure I saw someone elses name flash by??? Now Im off to get myself a gunny of my very own.
Quote: hotzappa11 @ May 23 2008, 11:19 PM BSTperformances. I can't remember it but one of Super Hans' lines at the funeral had me laughing like anything, it was something about fire.
Quote: hotzappa11 @ May 23 2008, 11:19 PM BSTOh, imo this was one of the best peepshow episodes
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 23 2008, 11:20 PM BSTBest episode of the series so far. As a side note, was there a different writer on this episode? At the end Im sure I saw someone elses name flash by???
Quote: Alan C @ May 23 2008, 11:26 PM BSTThe episode was written by Simon Blackwell
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 23 2008, 11:28 PM BSTThought so, didnt realise anyone else apart from Armstrong and Bain actually wrote episodes. Has this happened before? I thought they were the lone writers?
Quote: Alan C @ May 23 2008, 11:39 PM BSTYes this is the first out-sourced episode that I can recall - all other eps in this series were Armstrong & Bain. Well done Simon Blackwell
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 23 2008, 11:28 PM BSTThought so, didnt realise anyone else apart from Armstrong and Bain actually wrote episodes. Has this happened before? I thought they were the lone writers?
QuoteAre my legs on fire?
"Why doesn't Jeremy want him to be his dad? I want him to be my dad, I want to sit on his knee" LOL!
Quote: catskillz @ May 24 2008, 2:33 AM BSTYeah, that was hilarious. I remember a particulary vivid hallucination I had, years ago. I'd only been smoking a spliff, but it was probably the strongest one I've ever had. I was sitting on a wall at the top of a quiet, deserted road, with a mate, and I saw, what looked like little men, wearing black waistcoats, over white shirts, appearing, and disappearing, behind a bin bag filled with rubbish, which someone had left out, for the binmen to collect. I rubbed my eyes, but the little fellas stayed there. Then a couple of minutes later, I realised the hallucination had been caused by a combination of the bin bag, being blown gently, by the wind, and a black and white cat, which suddenly jumed out, from behind the bag, and ran off, oh, and me being so high, of course.
Quote: Seefacts @ May 24 2008, 12:33 AM BSTI never like it when other writer's come in. The episode was good, but it's just not the same.
Another great episode. "Gunny lives with us now". And of course, "Irish Wine", which is my new favourite drink.
Does anyone else agree that Series 4 was pretty poor, compared to the others, including this latest one?
Quote: Seefacts @ May 24 2008, 12:33 AM BSTI never like it when other writer's come in. The episode was good, but it's just not the same.
Quote: ian_w @ May 24 2008, 2:55 AM BST"Why doesn't Jeremy want him to be his dad? I want him to be my dad, I want to sit on his knee" LOL!
Best episode of this series so far, imo. Like old-style Peep Show episodes. Loved it.
"What do you say, we make these wines Irish?" -- best line. Laughed a LOT 
Dan
Quote: catskillz @ May 24 2008, 8:09 AM BSTDoes anyone else agree that Series 4 was pretty poor, compared to the others, including this latest one?
It is a sitcom message board, full of sitcom geeks.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 24 2008, 11:47 AM BSTAre people so used to it being brilliant that they now criticise every little thing that they dont find unquestionably genius?
Quote: Leevil @ May 24 2008, 11:50 AM BSTIt is a sitcom forum, full of sitcom geeks.
Quote: Aaron @ May 24 2008, 11:52 AM BSTI can't believe you even need to ask.
Does he eat cans as well?
Quote: Leevil @ May 24 2008, 11:54 AM BSTDoes he eat cans as well?
Is it goats cheese by any chance?
Quote: Leevil @ May 24 2008, 11:59 AM BSTIs it goats cheese by any chance?
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 24 2008, 11:53 AM BSTFull of picky, never happy, grumpy little turds. Into which i include myself at times. But seriously, they actually put something great on TV and it gets kicked about like a retarded puppy! Enjoy a quality comedy people!
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 24 2008, 12:02 PM BSTThat would be cannibalism, or at the very least incest.
Quote: Aaron @ May 24 2008, 12:20 PM BSTImpossible. They've over-analysed comedy so much that they don't find anything funny any more. (Well, very little anyway.)
Ah well, we can sit, enjoy, and smirk in pity.
Quote: catskillz @ May 24 2008, 8:09 AM BSTDoes anyone else agree that Series 4 was pretty poor, compared to the others, including this latest one?
I think it was Mark's fawning over Jez' mum's boyfriend, kinda like he did with Johnson - which was hilarious.
Quote: catskillz @ May 24 2008, 8:09 AM BSTDoes anyone else agree that Series 4 was pretty poor, compared to the others, including this latest one?
Quote: Badge @ May 25 2008, 1:03 AM BSTI agree that Series 4 was the worst series (with the caveat that this one hasn't finished yet!) - but all you people who analyse the analysers, please note that that doesn't mean it was bad. It was good.
It's useful to read what works and what doesn't. Peep Show doesn't have a live audience, so you don't know how well something was received, except from your own POV.
Yeah, people can be too negative, but it's only because they are passionate about it and need a place to vent their disappointment whatever, a where better then a geeky internet forum?
Quote: Leevil @ May 25 2008, 12:19 PM BSTIt's useful to read what works and what doesn't. Peep Show doesn't have a live audience, so you don't know how well something was received, except from your own POV.
Yeah, people can be too negative, but it's only because they are passionate about it and need a place to vent their disappointment whatever, a where better then a geeky internet forum?
I agree, it's a bad idea for writers to venture into these (or any other) forums, in case they actually do listen to us.
But I disagree with the idea it will appear that they don't like the show, why would they bother to watch it every week and then head on over here straight away to talk about it?
Quote: Leevil @ May 25 2008, 12:30 PM BSTBut I disagree with the idea it will appear that they don't like the show, why would they bother to watch it every week and then head on over here straight away to talk about it?
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 25 2008, 12:25 PM BSTAh, but this is the very thing that peeves me, and is why the actual writers of shows should never venture into places like this-its full of geeks who slate, slate, slate every tiny little thing! Even if they say they like the show, youd hardly guess it from the posts!
Quote: Aaron @ May 25 2008, 12:32 PM BSTI think the writers are wise enough to see which criticisms are valuable, and which to ignore. I'm sure that they can see the weaknesses in their shows, once broadcast, and make sense of which hold ground and which don't.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 25 2008, 12:32 PM BSTBecause they do! For evidence just look at the Gavin and Stacey thread! The same people week after week, for both series, saying how much they hate the latest episode and the show in general! Ive no idea why they do it, but some clearly do. Its bizarre to me, but such people do exist.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 25 2008, 12:32 PM BSTBecause they do! For evidence just look at the Gavin and Stacey thread! The same people week after week, for both series, saying how much they hate the latest episode and the show in general! Ive no idea why they do it, but some clearly do. Its bizarre to me, but such people do exist.
and their opinions don't count
.
Quote: Leevil @ May 25 2008, 12:30 PM BSTI agree, it's a bad idea for writers to venture into these (or any other) forums, in case they actually do listen to us.
But I disagree with the idea it will appear that they don't like the show, why would they bother to watch it every week and then head on over here straight away to talk about it?
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 25 2008, 12:34 PM BSTI know that, sure, thats not really my point, its more about over negativity in gen . . .ah, never mind . . .
Quote: Badge @ May 25 2008, 12:35 PM BST
Some contributors seem to have an odd perception that there are people on these forums who don't like comedy. That doesn't really make any sense.
Quote: Leevil @ May 25 2008, 12:30 PM BSTI agree, it's a bad idea for writers to venture into these (or any other) forums, in case they actually do listen to us.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 25 2008, 12:41 PM BSTWell, they probably just read a lot of the posts and come to the most obvious conclusion.
Peep Show is shit.
I hated Marks hair in this episode. What were the writers thinking? Ruined the whole series for me. This weeks was great actually.
Quote: Aaron @ May 25 2008, 12:43 PM BSTWell I don't agree with that. Some of the stuff we say could actually help. A lot of the time, people can't see problems with their own work until it's pointed out to them. Where better to go to see what people who watch the show actually think about it, and how to make it better? People do read the site and do take note of what we're saying. I just hope that they can use it for the better.
Great to see Ingrid Oliver on the show. She's absolutely hilarious.
Quote: Pripyat @ May 25 2008, 12:57 PM BSTGreat to see Ingrid Oliver on the show. She's absolutely hilarious.
It's weird, but I find it's often the most hardcore fans who are the most critical of anything. I visited a Dr Who forum full of people who are literally nuts about the show, but they were pulling every episode to tiny tiny pieces.
Anyway, this week's Peep Show was absolutely brilliant 
Quote: ian_w @ May 25 2008, 5:08 PM BSTAnyway, this week's Peep Show was absolutely brilliant
He goes all evil Bond villain!
It was funny how Jeremy shouted "F**k off!", when his mum's boyfriend suggested he was 35, because I'm pretty sure that's Robert Webb's real age.
"You brought gunny Jeremy?!"
Loved this weeks episode, although the ending was a bit flat, but it had plenty of great moments throughout. I just wish something would go right for Mark once because seems to be going wrong all the time for him.
Quote: ian_w @ May 25 2008, 5:08 PM BSTIt's weird, but I find it's often the most hardcore fans who are the most critical of anything. I visited a Dr Who forum full of people who are literally nuts about the show, but they were pulling every episode to tiny tiny pieces.
Quote: Alan C @ May 25 2008, 6:43 PM BST
I just love the voice Mark puts on when telling Jez about how he was about to allocate him his allowance
Quote: Martin Holmes @ May 25 2008, 10:47 PM BSTI just wish something would go right for Mark once because seems to be going wrong all the time for him.
Quote: Alan C @ May 25 2008, 10:52 PM BSTWhere's the fun in that?
Gummo Dimbleby. My new nom de plume.
Episode 4 was funny in spots, but felt a bit non eventful and quick. The ending was frustrating. I felt like "oh no, Jez ruins it at the last moment yet again and then Mark gives him that 'oh you!' look".
They've gone from a surreal series 4 back down to a mundane series 5. Still very funny in spots, but I cant help thinking that unless there is a big series finale of sorts, series 5 will be viewed (by me at least!) as a bit of a let down.
I'm still hopeful of a Mark and Sophie reunion, or even a glimmer of it - I think there could be quite a lot of comedy value in a woman finally coming between the two, perhaps she even moves into the flat, I see a lot of scope there.
Quote: Mexter @ May 26 2008, 10:12 PM BSTI'm still hopeful of a Mark and Sophie reunion, or even a glimmer of it - I think there could be quite a lot of comedy value in a woman finally coming between the two, perhaps she even moves into the flat, I see a lot of scope there.
What's so desirable about this "embarrassment factor"?
Actually, no, that's too off-topic. New thread time.
Quote: jeej @ May 26 2008, 3:04 AM BSTEpisode 4 was funny in spots, but felt a bit non eventful and quick. The ending was frustrating. I felt like "oh no, Jez ruins it at the last moment yet again and then Mark gives him that 'oh you!' look".
They've gone from a surreal series 4 back down to a mundane series 5. Still very funny in spots, but I cant help thinking that unless there is a big series finale of sorts, series 5 will be viewed (by me at least!) as a bit of a let down.
Quote: Rockabilly @ May 27 2008, 1:29 PM BST''series finale'' that phrase irritates the FUCK outa me, whats wrong with good old ''final episode'' , f**k yank terminology!!
Actually, the Americans call them "season finales".

Quote: Graham Bandage @ May 27 2008, 2:13 PM BSTActually, the Americans call them "season finales".
I believe they're called seasons in 'merica cause they tend to run for much longer then the six episode series we have here. Which means when they come to the end of a 5 month run they need a big season finale.
Quote: Bam! @ May 27 2008, 5:49 PM BSTI believe they're called seasons in 'merica cause they tend to run for much longer then the six episode series we have here. Which means when they come to the end of a 5 month run they need a big season finale.
Because they're yanks, and think they are wonderful.
They call autumn ''fall'' for fecks sake!!?? ...because the leaves ''fall'' off the trees.
Quote: Rockabilly @ May 27 2008, 6:48 PM BSTBecause they're yanks, and think they are wonderful.
They call autumn ''fall'' for fecks sake!!?? ...because the leaves ''fall'' off the trees.
Quote: monkeybeard @ May 27 2008, 7:19 PM BSTFall was used in England first actually, as are many words that are thought to be American in origin.
Yes soccer was first used in England to describe football but we take the piss out of them for using it now. It feels so good to be superior!
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.
Oscar Wilde
And still lacking.
Before we break the alliance I'm gonna get this back on track.
I'm really enjoying this series but I think it's the first one to be missing a strong running storyline. The only thing I can see is Mark's quest for "The one"
Next series I'd like to see Sophie announce she is pregnent and have a Who's the Daddy storyline between Mark and Geoff. In the last episode of that series it would be revealed to be either Geoff or someone else (Johnson?) because I would hate Mark to become a father.
Interesting or Sophie could get completely smashed, turn up at their flat and sleep on the sofa. Next morning Mark finds her in bed with Jez and series concludes with her announcing pregnancy - Mark or Jez?! oooo err
Nice, I wouldn't object to Jeremy becoming a Dad it might be an intresting direction to take him.
A "who's the dad" scenario sounds awful.
I'd rather a storyline where Jez manages to get a decent job or something, and although he is still a clown, he manages to do really well and it annoys the hell out of Mark.
Quote: Bam! @ May 27 2008, 8:13 PM BSTI'm really enjoying this series but I think it's the first one to be missing a strong running storyline.
To be fair, Dad's Army never had an episode where Capt.Mainwaring cooked and ate Mrs.Pike's dog in the woods either, but that worked pretty well.
Well there was LCpl. Jones falling for, and eventually marrying in the final episode, Mrs Fox. But that was so stretched out it probably doesn't count.
It's funny your all talking about pregnancy cus I was thinking of that earlier... what would be really funny is if natalie came back and said she was pregnant. And mark would have to father a child from being raped by a quasi-lesbian. Hahhaa...
Either way i'd like to see season 6 hopefully somehow start with marks baby being born... that's a whole season worth of hilarity right there. what a bad father he would be.
Mark losing his job, just as Jeremy gets one and the roles are reversed with Mark having to (begrudgingly) living off Jeremy's new success. Now, *that* would be a good storyline. If he lost his job cos of something stupid he did, and the bad reference stopped him getting another, would allow the story to be strung out further.
We actually need a Peep Show: Plots thread, I think...
Dan
With reference to the last episode, I thought they made Jeremy far too obnoxious in it. He's always stayed just the right side of cretinous, and usually his most odious comments were internal, but in this episode he stepped over. That said, I loved Mark's line "I would quite literally stab a baby to do it."
I would stab the parents first , if a child misbehaves , stab the parents! seems logical to me, but then , I dont have children , or want any , or , to be honest , want anyone else to have any , I f**king hate children with a passion , mind you , I f**king hate their parents with equal passion , decisions , decisions......
Wow! You're like "Chipolata Max"...

Dan
''f**k off clean shirt''
*LOL* 
(It's not even clean -- I wore it yesterday!)
Dan
Just seen the final show's synopsis in the RT - Mark gets into online gambling and wonders if Dobby is "the one" !! He's gonna lose all his money?!
Ooh, it could be interesting if Jeremy came into some money, and Mark had none.

Christ!
I think the idea of Mark losing his job and Jeremy getting one is great.
Also, I don't think Jeremy was too obnoxious in the last episode, it's clearly just the screwed up dynamic he has with his mother.
Quote: Seefacts @ May 29 2008, 12:10 AM BST
Christ!
... but needs an iron
Looks like a pretty slim David Mitchell, unless the pic has been distorted or something.
Quote: jeej @ May 29 2008, 12:30 AM BSTLooks like a pretty slim David Mitchell, unless the pic has been distorted or something.
I thought he had slowly put on weight as the series' had progressed - no doubt due to age more than anything. But if he has managed to lose a bit (presuming that pic is recent) then fair play.
Quote: jeej @ May 29 2008, 12:12 AM BSTI think the idea of Mark losing his job and Jeremy getting one is great.
Also, I don't think Jeremy was too obnoxious in the last episode, it's clearly just the screwed up dynamic he has with his mother.
Quote: chipolata @ May 29 2008, 11:05 AM BST
Also, I hope that now Mitchell's thin he hasn't lost the funny.
Well I saw him at the BAFTA launch a month ago and he was damn funny in the Q&A.
Was he in a fat suit?
Dan
That could be a storline in Series 6 of Peep Show. Mark becomes thin and athletic, while Jeremy becomes a big fat bloater.
He's never been fat!
He's just got a podgy face, so people assume he's a bit porky. But he's not!
Easy, girl! Although your wrong, he had a big wobbly belly and no mistaking.
Well, I haven't looked that carefully, to be honest.
Ask Rachel, she fancies both of 'em!
Quote: zooo @ May 29 2008, 11:34 AM BSTWell, I haven't looked that carefully, to be honest.
Ask Rachel, she fancies both of 'em!
The worrying thing about Robert Webb is that I have seen him naked quite a few times. He was naked in Confetti, flashing his bits, and in the last episode of Mitchell and Webb he was naked again! Enough is enough.
Off topic: I read he hated doing Confetti.
Yeah, I heard him talking about it on Jonathan Ross and he really seemed to hate it, and was very unhappy with the director of Confetti and various assurances she made before filming started.
I like the idea of a role reversal. Jeremy's job could be in the media like he wants and, of course, the reason Mark gets fired would be due to some hugely embarassing incident posibly due to Mark having a breakdown.
I've been watching series one again and Jeremy mentioned "A porn film with a proper story" just like he did to his Mum last week.
Robert Webb was also naked in the second episode of Peep Show apart from a pair of socks which made him look "Scary, like a chicken."
This is my fave sitcom ever BUT... I think it should end in series 6 with a two part finale with a who's the daddy storyline of Sophie's baby between Mark and Jeff (It turns out to be jeff) and a double length X-mas special with X-mas at Jez's mum's who lives in a surprisingly big house (they never got to corfu) but Super Hans hops aboard and chaos breaks lose.
Quote: Will Brook @ May 29 2008, 10:47 PM BSTThis is my fave sitcom ever BUT... I think it should end in series 6 with a two part finale with a who's the daddy storyline of Sophie's baby between Mark and Jeff (It turns out to be jeff) and a double length X-mas special with X-mas at Jez's mum's who lives in a surprisingly big house (they never got to corfu) but Super Hans hops aboard and chaos breaks lose.
I thiink it sounds good anyway (In my own little world, which it'll probably never happen
)
Mark : "I'm a sex robot servicing the One" - now who did I imagine saying that in their sleep? 
I didn't think it was too great tonight. A little predictable at times.
"... and I'll be the one sitting on a rock, wanking off."

Great ep! Two in a row! They're back.
Dan
Quote: Winterlight @ May 30 2008, 11:07 PM BSTI didn't think it was too great tonight. A little predictable at times.
Quote: swerytd @ May 30 2008, 11:08 PM BST"... and I'll be the one sitting on a rock, wanking off."
I can't believe the hot manager girl is the same girl from the Catherine Tate Show, wowza. IMO a good episode with some great lines, but a dip from last weeks.
The long dialogue between Jez and Super Hans about "I threatened to walk" "So did you ?" seemed to be exactly the same as a scene in series 1 where Jez got sacked from the recording studio ?
A bit of a mixed bag, I thought.
But I loved the scene with the crystal skulls of Atlantis.
Missed most of it, but seemed as formulaic as a gag about Micheal Elphic.
Quote: Griff @ May 30 2008, 11:41 PM BST
A bit of a mixed bag, I thought.
But I loved the scene with the crystal skulls of Atlantis.
BEST EPISODE EVER!
Quote: Alan C @ May 30 2008, 11:10 PM BSTI totally agree and back to Armstrong & Bain as the writers as well
Another great episode, just a quality series that I actually think people are taking for granted now its been around for so long; which is why I think theres a bit more negativity this time around, because it certainly hasnt dipped in quality to my eyes.
Youre what my Grandmother would call 'A real piece of shit'.
Brilliant.
That was hilarious!!! Loved the crystal skull bit too.
Very very funny.
Is it possible to marry a show? EllieJP Peep Show.
Yeah good this week, if you forget how brilliant last weeks was.
Produced some classic lines, like every week.
"Sorry science, sorry logic." 
Quote: EllieJP @ May 31 2008, 2:20 PM BSTEllieJP Peep Show.
I saw yet another one of my sitcom ideas, on last night's Peep Show. It's my own fault, for taking so f**king long writing it. Anyway, now that's Vivienne Vyle, Teenage Kicks and Peep Show, that have all used ideas I was going to use.
Quote: catskillz @ May 31 2008, 5:18 PM BSTI saw yet another one of my sitcom ideas, on last night's Peep Show. It's my own fault, for taking so f**king long writing it. Anyway, now that's Vivienne Vyle, Teenage Kicks and Peep Show, that have all used ideas I was going to use.
Quote: EllieJP @ May 31 2008, 2:20 PM BST
Is it possible to marry a show? EllieJP Peep Show.
Some of the dialogue was amazing, but the stories are getting a little tiresome now.
It's getting to the point where if someone asked me what the general premise of an episode of Peep Show was, I could just say...
"Two guys share a flat, one is boring and uptight, the other is eccentric and care free. Every time the first guy manages to get some good luck, the second guy manages to f**k him over. It's always awkward."
For me personally, this series has been a real disappontment, and I thought this was the weakest episode yet. The only really inspired moment occurred at the start with Superhans still not convinced the Internet would take off. Aside from that, it was Peep Show by numbers.
I thought it was funny. It is getting repetitive with Mark thinking everyone is The One, but I still like it.
"He draws funny cartoons of you...wraps them in sausage meat...and calls you a sausage muncher"
Without the dialogue it would be dead in the water.
The lines about the internet being the future were indeed gold. Matt King's body language and gesticulations make a lot of those exchanges work. They did well to cast him ahead of Russell Brand way back when.
Huh?
I don't really know what you want me to say.
I suppose you could just re-read what I put and see if it makes any more sense to you.
They were gonna cast Russell Brand? 
Thank you, that's basically what I was going for.
I'm assuming this Matt fellow plays Super Hans.
*nods*
I can see that Russell is the same type actually.
The one they got is perfect though.
Yeah, he's great. Always smile when Super Hans shows up and says something like, "Did you try to have me sectioned?!" 
Yeah, sorry for the confusion.
It was said on the commentary on one of the Peep Show DVDs that Russell Brand originally auditioned for the part of Super Hans - but Matt King got the part ahead of him. I really cant imagine anyone else being Super Hans.
Wow, I had no idea Russell auditioned!
That would have been weird.
Back then he'd have been an off the rails druggie still, so it would have been a nightmare.
Anyway, like I said, they struck gold with Matt King.
It wouldn't have been weird. No one knew who he was then. If he had got the part he never would have been the presenter of Big Mouth so never would have become a household name and we would all just know him as Super Hans off Peep Show.
I already knew him from MTV Dance - but yeah, wouldn't be a household name like he is now.
Funny how things pan out.
Russel Brand .... whenever I think of him , I try and imagine him instead of James Caan tied to the bed in Misery while Kathy Bates smashes his ankles with a sledgehammer , but it's not a movie.....
Quote: jeej @ June 3 2008, 1:34 AM BSTI already knew him from MTV Dance - but yeah, wouldn't be a household name like he is now.
Funny how things pan out.
No, he was/is a tosser.
Quote: Tim Walker @ June 3 2008, 5:19 PM BSTDoes anyone else remember that show Russell Brand had on the Paramount Comedy channel years ago, where he would "tackle" issues? I remember in one he "addressed" the issue of homelessness by taking a tramp home to share a bath. On another he dealt with any confusion about his sexuality by wanking-off a guy in a pub toilet, before hiring a couple of prostitutes to help him re-assert his heterosexuality.
Think he was probably still on the drugs at this stage...
It was called Re:Brand. It was f**king fantastic.
It's all on youtube, some of it is pretty hilarious.
The one where he boxes his dad is the best one.
Quite sad.
My favourite is the one with the tramp but to mention one no one else has what about the one where he meets the BNP youth leader.
BNP: Is this Carling?
OL' RUSS: Nah mate, they don't have Carling here so I got you a pint of black person's urine. 

That's my second favourite.
This should really be going in its own thread now, I think!
Sorry Mr Admin sir.
For some reason I thought Peep Show was over, but there's another one! Hurrah!
Peep Show Rocks.
I love the whole set up. Adored the guney one last week.
Can't wait for Peep Show. It's like Friday nights are back again, kind of. I remember getting exciting about new Friends, Frasier, Father Ted, Black Books, Spaced, South Park, ect and Red Dwarf n Bottom on BBC Two.
And Dobby's back again tonight! Hurrah! Plus the ongoing tragedy of Sophie. What's not to love ?
Is she the one? 
Tonights is the last one though, its over too quick
Aww damn!
Deliberately not going out in the rain tonight to watch this.
I'm going to miss it when it's gone... 
ooooh i can't wait ... Mark is gonna lose all his money and profess to Dobby that she is the one ... I betcha
It's on! It's on! *runs around flailing*
stop flailing you mad woman it hasn't even started yet!
oooh I was partly right anyway
http://www.comedy.co.uk/forums/thread/1084/20
Ooh, well done.
That was a brilliant last episode!!!
yes but it has gone now

I expect everyone to aplaud me for my brilliance in predicting the whole Sophie pregnant thing! Me and Alan C could be mistoke for Jesse Armstrong and Sam Bain!!!
I really liked this episode. Mark's inner monologue's were great. And when Super Hans is about to smash the TV...
"NO, IT'S HD-READY!"
P.S. I love Dobby, heh.
I just love how Peep Show is packed full of really great ready-made quotes. My favourite this time: the one about how you can't ask for sperm back, much like when you lend someone less than a fiver.

It was predictive and I didn't laugh as much as normal. I guess it was trying to wind up the series. What a shame.
Quote: hotzappa11 @ June 6 2008, 11:29 PM BSTP.S. I love Dobby, heh.
Dobby \o/
I liked it. There were some good quotes as Mark pointed out.
The 'Jeremy being the dad' bit was predictable though.
Especially as in the ad break before it started the announcer guy gave away the whole plotline just to make some crap gag.
What a twunt.
I liked the return of 'Gerrard', they should use him more often
UGH.
After months of trying to get everyone to watch Peep Show my dad just came up to me and said 'I watched those two episodes of Peep Show you taped onto the harddrive, it's so funny, when's it on?'
Eejit.
Old people - pah!
Glad to see you are using you in your avatar again Rachel - much nicer and less confusing 
Oh yeah! I didn't even notice.
Goodbye sweet David!
Her profile picture is one of the best on BSG.
Haha!
It's because I kept seeing your posts Zooo, and thinking for a split second it was me! Very confusing. Although if I find a fitting Howard Moon picture, it's replacing my face. 
It should be interesting to see you mooning in your next picture - I'd go along with that choice 
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Rawrr.
But no, keep yours, s'nice!
Helllloooooooooooooooooo.
Can I nick it?!
Well, yeah, of course! But all the boys will hate me if you change your avatar.
Yay!
Now I am Mr Barratt. Hello Zooo. *strokes*
Ooh, crikey.
*grins wolfishly*
Where you from?
I could get used to this.
oh dear, oh dear, oh dear 
Zooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
What have you done?!
Now her avatar of her has gone!!!
Sorry. 
Might as well join em 
Quote: zooo @ June 7 2008, 6:40 PM BSTSorry.
a) who is that, Alan?
b) this thread has gone woefully off topic....
Erm.
When does series 6 start? 
I don't know, but is the DVD of series 5 out sooner than the other series have been released? Channel 4 seem intent on pre-orders.
Quote: zooo @ June 7 2008, 6:43 PM BSTa) who is that, Alan?
I missed the real avatar! I feel all left out! 
Which one?
Well I dunno, 'cos I missed it! Rachel's own visage, I think?
Yep!!
Haha! You were all too late.
We are the chosen ones.
I want to be a chosen one again
Quote: zooo @ June 7 2008, 8:42 PM BSTYep!!
Haha! You were all too late.
We are the chosen ones.
Damnit. I was out in London, doing London-y things!
Getting mugged?
Noo, looking at historical-y-ness!
What bits!?
Lily Allen's hair?
Ha! No - although I may have gone a little unnecessary had I seen her. 
But no, went around Westminster Abbey (which is amazing and makes me wish I was religious), then did some walking around, went over to County Hall for Chinese, got an ice cream, and then missed getting into the Jewel Tower by literally a minute because they shut early. 
... And so went and sat in The Victoria Tower Gardens for a while instead.
Ooh, they have a moat.
Yep! 
(Going to go during the week instead.)

Oh bugger. Quick, talk about Peep Show!
Oh bugger. Erm. Yeah, woops.
I will be watching series 5 this week. I hear that it is good.
I just burned all the eps of S5 to DVD - huurah. I've watched all 30 episodes again in the last 2 days
Well, that was *great*. Really enjoyed it. Good end to the series. Last three episodes very strong.
Dan
Oh noooooeeeeeess. I thought Alan C's avatar was Chris Barrie when I first saw it. 
Half of me wants them to stop making more series just so I can go out and get the boxset.

EDIT:

Haha, thought I better put something on-topic in there after everyone had tried so hard to put the thread back on the rails.
Great season finale.. though I must say they went a little over the top with the plot. Still it was funny, and that's all that really matters.
"She's stolen my sperm!" "Stop sitting like that!"
I have just moved abroad for 3 months - any idea how i can get to watch 5th series - BBC iplayer doesn't work!!
S5 Peep Show is released on DVD later this month if that helps ?
Ok but LARP is such a funny subject, and they totally under played it.
Also the Scinetology thing felt like they got cold feet, do it or don't. Don't do it badly.
The Scientology storyline was pissed away somewhat. L. Ron Hubbard's crazy psuedo-religion is fascinating, and worthy of a sitcom in itself, or at the very least developing properly in an episode. As for the Sophie getting pregnant storyline, it felt slightly predictable and remiscent of American sitcoms where, when they run out of ideas, they make a major character pregnant. I also feel that as a character Sophie has run her course and I was hoping we wouldn't see any more of her after series 4.
That said, it's still pretty funny. I just feel that in this series Peep Show slightly lost its unmissable status.
The actress who plays Sophie is really talented, but the character is stuck.
And posh, daddys girl, whose quite naughty and likes drugs etc, and cries when in trouble. That felt like lazy writing.
I mean when she was dragging round by the nose with this in the first couple of series felt way better.
Quote: sootyj @ June 9 2008, 11:11 AM BSTThe actress who plays Sophie is really talented, but the character is stuck.
And posh, daddys girl, whose quite naughty and likes drugs etc, and cries when in trouble. That felt like lazy writing.
I mean when she was dragging round by the nose with this in the first couple of series felt way better.
No one has mentioned me predicting the storyline. 
Peep Show is great. But i can't help thinking 'You're getting off with a camera lens' whenever they kiss. Damn my inability to NOT break the 4th wall.
Aren't they actually wearng cameras strapped to their heads though? So they actually are kissing each other (or pretending to anyway)?
Quote: Aaron @ June 10 2008, 8:15 AM BSTAren't they actually wearng cameras strapped to their heads though? So they actually are kissing each other (or pretending to anyway)?
He's been swimmin' in De Nile river.
Fruity little comedy genius.
Quote: Bam! @ June 9 2008, 5:08 PM BSTNo one has mentioned me predicting the storyline.
After episode 6 I feel exactly the same as I did after episode 5: the stories are tired and predictable, however... the dialogue is amazing as ever and carries the show.
So overall I still really enjoy it, I'm just slightly disappointed that it is wearing a tad thin on the story line side of things. I don't think it has to be that way though, the writers just need to get a bit more 'fresh' with the story lines - although not at the cost of the dialogue!
Quote: chipolata @ June 11 2008, 10:02 AM BSTIf you want predictions, I think series 6 will feature the first openly gay experience between the boys. They've hinted at it before, but never gone all the way.
There's an extra on the series 5 DVD which shows the scene where Sophie talks to Mark at the party from her POV with her thoughts.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=35825901
For me this is a nice DVD extra but I wouldn't like the show to have other peoples thoughts as it would destroy the "world from Mark and Jeremy's POV" that the show is set around.
But as a DVD extra this is great!
Quote: Bam! @ June 12 2008, 3:58 PM BST
For me this is a nice DVD extra but I wouldn't like the show to have other peoples thoughts as it would destroy the "world from Mark and Jeremy's POV" that the world is set around.
I do often wonder what's going on inside the head of the other characters. Especially Johnson!
Nope, kill it, kill it now.
For me, personally, the appeal of hearing Mark and Jeremy's thoughts is that I can often empathise with their respected situations when interacting with others. But if all of a sudden you can hear *everybody's* thoughts, then it sort of ruins it.
But fair enough, nice little DVD extra for one scene.
For some reason I'm reminded of a gag from Buffy (which was a great comedy show amongst its many other achievements) in an episode where Buffy could suddenly hear the inner thoughts of all the characters, voiced-over in a style not unlike Peep Show. Most of the inner dialogue was what you'd expect - horny teen Xander would say something inoffensive, and then we would hear his inner voice permanently fixated on sex - but when we got to dimwit Cordelia, all her dialogue was exactly the same as her inner voice.
INTERIOR VOICE: Those are great shoes.
REAL VOICE, A SECOND LATER: Those are great shoes.
INTERIOR VOICE: I'm bored.
REAL VOICE: I'm bored.
Etc.
Well it made me laugh.
Quote: jeej @ June 12 2008, 11:58 PM BSTNope, kill it, kill it now.
For me, personally, the appeal of hearing Mark and Jeremy's thoughts is that I can often empathise with their respected situations when interacting with others. But if all of a sudden you can hear *everybody's* thoughts, then it sort of ruins it.
But fair enough, nice little DVD extra for one scene.
I am at a loss, no Peep Show tonight
Don't worry, David Mitchell is bound to pop up on 'Eat Out Of Tin Cans' - It is a panel show after all 
Plus he's currently doing The Unbelievable Truth on R4 on Mondays.
And a new series of 'Would I Lie to you?' is on the way soon.
Its all good in David Mitchell world, he's never away long enough for people to get withdrawal symptoms 
hurrah
This is quite fun. All the main Peep Show characters are on Twitter talking to each other:
http://twitter.com/peep_show
Quote: Mark @ February 17 2009, 1:18 PM GMTThis is quite fun. All the main Peep Show characters are on Twitter talking to each other:
http://twitter.com/peep_show
David Mitchell has tweeted today that filming of series six starts today. The first scene is a picnic.
Quote: Mark @ February 17 2009, 2:18 PM BSTThis is quite fun. All the main Peep Show characters are on Twitter talking to each other:
http://twitter.com/peep_show
Quote: Ian Wolf @ July 5 2009, 8:02 AM BSTDavid Mitchell has tweeted today that filming of series six starts today.
Question for superfans or Hans...
Which episode features the line, "why toast when you can roast"
its series 5 episode 2 - spin war
Thanks Tom G
Quote: shaggy292 @ July 8 2009, 6:13 PM BSTThat's weird, I seem to remember reading on Wikipedia ages ago that series 6 was in post-production already.
Mind you, Robert Webb says it should be ready to air in autumn. That doesn't seem too long!
Probably 30th November